Master Spike Review Thread

[RunFreer]

Here's a place to post all the spike reviews and/or questioning pertaining to them.

Ex:

Overall Impression/10
Reasons x,y,z

Comfort/10
Plate/10
Durability/10
Pros:
Cons:

ex:Nike Zoom Victory

Overall: 10/10
These things are super light, feel great, and have solid lockdown.
Comfort: 9.5/10
They are a little narrow for some, the plate is thin so not recommended for XC.
Plate: 10/10
The spike configuration is awesome, and the lockdown is fantastic. Just enough cushion, and still is a really light package.
Durability: 9/10
These things can rip easily and the cushion wears down fast. Other than that these things are good to go.
Pros:light, comfy, solid lockdown, sexy colors
Cons: the sockliner comes loose (can be fixed with a dab or two of superglue)

[Juicexc]

Anyone have the Adidas Cadence?

[rcs1113]

Anyone have the Adidas Cadence?

Yes I would also like to get a review for these, and a size/fit review. Seems like a great spike but I just havnt bought them because I dont know whats up with them.

[xsprinterx]

Nike Zoom BigBrotha

Overall Impression: 8/10

Eastbay Description:
The Nike Zoom Bigbrotha track spike is designed for the versatility of many different sprint events. Skeletal synthetic frame offers support in a minimal, lightweight package. Internal forefoot strapping system adds lock down. Lightweight, contoured Phylon™ midsole provides cushioning. Flexible yet supportive five-spike configuration with extended midfoot support. Heel outsole pod delivers extra traction. Includes 1/4" Christmas tree spikes and a wrench. Wt. 7.2 oz.

My Review:
This is one of Nike's most versatile sprint spikes. It has been used for distances up to 800m. It has the Celar plate that was originally made for Marion Jones in the 100m but it ended up being used mostly for the 400 in my experience. In terms of aggressiveness, it lies in between in the Powercat and the Maxcat leaning more towards the relaxed side. It has a 3/4 length plate with 5 pins. The upper is very flexible and can provide lock down when needed for the shorter distances. The plate is a beast for hurdles; a lot of big names like Liu Xiang, David Oliver, Bershawn Jackson, and Kerron Clement use this for hurdling. I personally have had issues with the high arc in the shoe; I've had irritation in that area.

Comfort: 7/10
a little narrow and the high arc bothers me.

Plate: 9/10
probably the most versatile spike Nike has that can range from the 100 to even maybe the 800

Durability: 8.5/10
pretty good they've lasted 2 seasons right now

Pros: versatilty and awesomness on the hurdles
Cons: the arc bothers me a little bit imo

[xsprinterx]

Nike Zoom Monsterfly

Overall Impression: 8/10

Reasons:
Eastbay description:
Shawn Crawford's shoe in the 2004 Olympic Games. The Nike Monster Fly is designed for the elite level 100 meter sprinter looking for a sprint spike with the latest in innovative technology that supports the foot and enhances performance like no other spike. Lean and light synthetic one-piece vamp creates perfect forefoot lock down for power transfer.Forefoot support band integrated into the upper for adjustable fit and stability over the spike plate. Open mesh panel creates breathability and reduces weight. Phylon™ wedge midsole. Full-length nylon plate provides support. Aggressive seven permanent Christmas tree 7mm spikes add traction in a lightweight package. Two-column Nike Shox™ support piece under the heel supports the foot and provides correct sprinting form and foot position. Wt. 7.4 oz.

My review:
I love this shoe from sprint distances up to the 400. Although it has the stigma of having the same upper as the Rival Sprint III, with this plate it provides great lock down especially in the 100 where it is needed the most. In my opinion, the plate is as aggressive as the Powercat but it has a different feel; a little more natural. It has a similar spike configuration to the it's Rival counter part but the middle spike doesn't bother you. It has permanent spikes that are really durable; mine haven't worn down and I've had them for 3 years. The shox are put there to support the foot when your heel strikes the ground in the latter part of a 400 maybe but it isn't necessary at all. If it didn't have the shox in it I would give it a higher score.

Comfort: 9/10
best lockdown on any sprint spike I've used

Plate: 8/10
shox are unnecessary but provide great aggression

Durability: 8.5/10
after I got my powercats these became my practice spikes and I've used them almost every practice for two years and the perma-pins are still good. The plate itself is very worn though

Pros: great lockdown and perfect for the 100
Cons: unnecessary shox

[xsprinterx]

Nike Zoom Powercat

Overall Impression: 10/10

Reasons:
Eastbay Desciption:

Designed and tested with the world's fastest 100-400 meter trackathletes, the Nike Zoom Powercat is a technical sprint spike for thesprinter looking for the most support under the foot in a minimal andlight package. Minimal, light and uniquely crafted synthetic upper isperforated for breathability. Low-profile Phylon

[Fitzxc27]

Nike Zoom Mamba

Comfort: 9/10
Takes a race or two to wear them in, but after that you barely notice them. A bit narrow, but that may be because I have a wider foot. Breathes very well because of the open mesh upper.

Plate: 9/10
3 fingered, 5 pin plate. Similar to that of the OG Maxcat (I think that was it, someone can correct me on this if that's wrong). Somewhat aggressive but can be used up to 5000 meters comfortably, hell Lisa Koll even uses them for the 10000. Can also be used for XC on all grass courses.

Durability: ?/10
I have only used them for one track season so I cannot say, although I've heard they don't last too long.

Looks: 9/10
I think the bright orange colorway is sick, and I don't get why some people hate the OG colorway when thats supposed to be the theme of the spike (Mamba=Crocodile in Kenyan).

[xsprinterx]

Nike Zoom Miler

Overall Impression: 9.5/10

Reasons:
Eastbay Desciption:

The Zoom Miler is the first Nike track spike designed specifically for the mile. Designed for the middle distance runner looking for a ultra-lightweight spike with an aggressive plate and platform. Lightweight Japan inspired mesh upper, midfoot synthetic strap adds support, synthetic glove-like leather forefoot. Ultra-thin Phylon

[xsprinterx]

Nike Zoom Superfly R2

Overall Impression: 9/10

Reasons:
First To The Finish Description:

Worn by Olympic Champion Dawn Harper in Beijing. Designed, developed and tested with the world

[xsprinterx]

Nike Zoom Lanang

Overall Impression: 10/10

Reasons:
Eastbay Desciption:

The Nike Zoom Lanang ST is a highly breathable and ultra-lightweight steeplechase shoe for the athlete who needs a specific spike for running the barriers. Light and open mesh upper is designed to maximize water drainage and minimize water retention. Forefoot straps allow the foot to stay positioned over the footbed. Low-profile Phylon

[xsprinterx]

Wow I'm so bored at work I just did six reviews

[runnerdude40]

Why is this stickied?

[WillyNilly]

Nike Zoom Mamba
Plate: 9/10
3 fingered, 5 pin plate. Similar to that of the Maxcat II.

although I've heard they don't last too long.


Correction and I've gotten 3 track seasons out of mine (1 indoor, 2 outdoor) and half of an xc season out of mine, plus a buttload of workouts. They're work out but they were still real good towards the end.

[Zen Miler]

Why is this stickied?

it was lost in the transition and due to popular demand was recently restored.

[rcs1113]

Could someone list the agressiveness of these spikes? Victory, Miler, Maxcat, Avanti, Adizero Md?

I've never run in victories, milers, or avantis so i just wanna compare them all to the others

[ItalianRunner6]

Could someone list the agressiveness of these spikes? Victory, Miler, Maxcat, Avanti, Adizero Md?

I've never run in victories, milers, or avantis so i just wanna compare them all to the others

I have the Victory's and the Avanti's. I would say that the Vic's are a lot more aggressive than the Avanti's. I haven't worn the Avanti's in a race yet, but when I first got them and tried them on they were less aggressive. In my opinion they have a 1500m-10k range, although I would rather use the Vic's for a 1500m. The Avanti's are Adidas' premier steeple chase spike, the drainage is very comparable to the lanangs . They are 5.1 oz (size 9) and are, in my opinion, a lot more durable than the Matumbo's.

I will put up a full review once I have used them more.

[puffydisc]

Could someone review the Nike Forever XC and the Nike Forever XC 2s? Im pretty sure im gonna buy one of those two for xc this year but would like to hear some input on the shoe

[Runnerdude99]

some non-nike spikes please. yes, other running shoe companies do exist.

[puffydisc]

Could someone review the Nike Forever XC and the Nike Forever XC 2s? Im pretty sure im gonna buy one of those two for xc this year but would like to hear some input on the shoe
BUMP
need more of a review on the nike forever xc 2's than the org foreve xc

[RunFreer]

From what my friends have said, the XC2's were a bit of a disappointment. They said the spikes were extremely stiff and a little uncomfortable because of the arch. I know for a fact that they are solid at draining and aren't too heavy.

On the other hand, one of my mid distance friends used them from XC thru outdoor and didn't have an issue. They looked almost new too.

[Running2win]

forever xc2 is honestly my favorite spike, xc or track...its awesome, ive worn both models of the forevers and i highly recommend them. i didnt notice anything wrong with the arch and the fit is pretty sweet, i love the upper, very lightweight, much more comfortable then flywire

[Zizzyfizzle]

Anybody want to review the mawler? Thinking about getting them but don't want to waste the $100+ if they suck

[runnerdude40]

Anybody want to review the mawler? Thinking about getting them but don't want to waste the $100+ if they suck

QFE. I would like this too. I always asked on old Dyestat for someone to review them seriously, but never got a legit review.

[stopPRE1236]

I heard from a friend that the snap in them is mind blowing on the mawlers. To be honest I kind of want a pair as a 400, 800 guy. They look so cool!

[xsprinterx]

I heard from a friend that the snap in them is mind blowing on the mawlers. To be honest I kind of want a pair as a 400, 800 guy. They look so cool!

If their anything like their predecessor, the Monsterfly, then this is true. Also, it may have the most lockdown than any other spike that nike has

[stopPRE1236]

If their anything like their predecessor, the Monsterfly, then this is true. Also, it may have the most lockdown than any other spike that nike has
I really wish i could find out for my self

[puffydisc]

Can anyone review the org Puma Harambee's for me? Thanks

[CiCi Ya Later!]

any details on the new adidas adizero Belligerence?

[xsprinterx]

Anybody try the Demolisher 2's or the Powersprint 2's?

[hurdling rules the world]

If their anything like their predecessor, the Monsterfly, then this is true. Also, it may have the most lockdown than any other spike that nike has

i don't think it has the most lockdown, the r2's have stupid amount because of the straps, if you do them up properly you fell like there's the thinnest of wafers between you and the track... but as for the spike actually feeling like a sock i can see that they would, i've got celars and they definetely feel like socks, it's weird though because they've got double layers, i fell that if you took the top bit, plasticy bit, of the spikes off then there would be no real difference, when mine are absaloutely nackered i'm gonna give it a try.

[xsprinterx]

Anybody want to review the mawler? Thinking about getting them but don't want to waste the $100+ if they suck

QFE. I would like this too. I always asked on old Dyestat for someone to review them seriously, but never got a legit review.

I heard from a friend that the snap in them is mind blowing on the mawlers. To be honest I kind of want a pair as a 400, 800 guy. They look so cool!

I totally forgot about this:
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=7598#ooid=ZqNjU2Olt3vZ8fgz3gmJC90v5oILxvwv

i don't think it has the most lockdown, the r2's have stupid amount because of the straps, if you do them up properly you fell like there's the thinnest of wafers between you and the track... but as for the spike actually feeling like a sock i can see that they would, i've got celars and they definetely feel like socks, it's weird though because they've got double layers, i fell that if you took the top bit, plasticy bit, of the spikes off then there would be no real difference, when mine are absaloutely nackered i'm gonna give it a try.

I see what you're saying but I won't know till I try. I felt that the Mawlers and R2 had the same amount of great lock down but in a different way. The Monsterfly was awesome for the 100 because the one piece vamp of the upper really sucked my foot in so to speak when I was going as fast as I could push myself. As for the R2, my foot wouldn't move around at all and that really helped whenever I ran the 200 or 300. One thing about the Mawler though that I think the video explains is that it only has one lace at the top, not around the whole top of your foot like the Celar 3. Its as if you're wrapping one of Terrence Trammel's shoe covers over your foot or almost like a rubber glove but more comfortable. But like I said I haven't tried it on yet

Edit: If the video doesn't work try this: http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&member_id=7&video_id=7598

[stopPRE1236]

those are the best videos on runnerspace "the zoom package" lol

[runnerdude40]

those are the best videos on runnerspace "the zoom package" lol

qfe. Those guys are hilarious. I would love to chill with them lol.

[stopPRE1236]

qfe. Those guys are hilarious. I would love to chill with them lol.
thats the job i want to do

[hurdling rules the world]

thats the job i want to do

same... they seem to have fun, get to constantly speak to the worlds best athletes and design spikes for a living :rolleyes: i wish...

[stopPRE1236]

same... they seem to have fun, get to constantly speak to the worlds best athletes and design spikes for a living :rolleyes: i wish...
thats what im studying to do, conceptual design hopefully I end up with a job for them.

[hurdling rules the world]

thats what im studying to do, conceptual design hopefully I end up with a job for them.

brilliant, then in a couple of years time, we'll know what the spikes look like before anoyone else has seen them ;)

[RunNation]

Idk if this is the right place to ask this question but this past track season I used the Nike Matumbos and I had horrible blister problems. Im curious if anybody has had similar problems with these shoes or knows of a light alternative spike (maybe the vent 2s?) for track.

To be more specific on the blisters, it would only happen on the ball of my foot. I love the feel of the spike and they are comfortable as well but after every race, my calluses on the balls of my feet would flair up and turn into blisters. I pronate so idk if pronators cant wear the Matumbos but does anybody have any answers to this problem?

[xsprinterx]

Anybody try the Demolisher 2's or the Powersprint 2's?

bumpizzle

[Justifiably Snazzy]

Does anyone have the Asics Japan Lite-ning 3s? (Gasp, non-Nike spike) I need a pair of sprint spikes for my 400 next year. They were barely ever mentioned back at Dyestat, but the plate looks very good and they weigh 5.1 oz with the spikes in. To kill two birds with one stone, if anyone knows how they fit compared to any Nike spikes, that'd be a big help as well.

[stopPRE1236]

Idk if this is the right place to ask this question but this past track season I used the Nike Matumbos and I had horrible blister problems. Im curious if anybody has had similar problems with these shoes or knows of a light alternative spike (maybe the vent 2s?) for track.

To be more specific on the blisters, it would only happen on the ball of my foot. I love the feel of the spike and they are comfortable as well but after every race, my calluses on the balls of my feet would flair up and turn into blisters. I pronate so idk if pronators cant wear the Matumbos but does anybody have any answers to this problem?

You may be wearing to big of spikes I remeber when I fisrt started running my spike wear to big and I would get blisters from sliding around in them. If that's not the case you could always use body glid and keep raceing in the same spikes. Just put it on your foot were you get the blisters before you race and you should be good.

[RunNation]

You may be wearing to big of spikes I remeber when I fisrt started running my spike wear to big and I would get blisters from sliding around in them. If that's not the case you could always use body glid and keep raceing in the same spikes. Just put it on your foot were you get the blisters before you race and you should be good.
How are the Vent 2s support on the ball of the foot compared to the Matumbos? And I have the right size, they fit snug and I know they are the right size, I dont get sliding, its just more the pressure on the ball of my feet...

[teddy_farley]

it's pretty much the same spike, just without flywire.

[Cocakula]

How many miles will I get out of a pair of Vics? If it helps I'm about 137 pounds.

[ItalianRunner6]

How many miles will I get out of a pair of Vics? If it helps I'm about 137 pounds.

What would you be using them for, track, XC, or both? And what events would you be using them for?

I used mine all last track season, with about eight 3200m, six 1600m, four 800m, and one 2000m steeple. I have also used them for workouts on the track. For me they held up just fine with no rips or problems, so I will probably be using them for track next year and maybe a couple of XC races this year.

[Cocakula]

Just for track workouts, probably around 25-30 miles/week worth of use.

[ItalianRunner6]

Just for track workouts, probably around 25-30 miles/week worth of use.

You could probably use them for a couple of seasons. Mine have been holding up great so far with races and workouts, so you should be fine just using them for workouts.

[Cocakula]

Great, thanks!

On a different note, would it be bad to use the Victory XC on courses that have asphalt? I heard the bottom is rubber and not plastic unlike its track counterpart, so I would assume it would hold up better. The only thing I don't know is if running with spikes on asphalt would destroy the shoe?

[RunFreer]

the fact that its called the victory xc is kind of a misnomer, its more like the matumbo xc...anyways, it should be able to handle asphalt, I did striders in them on it :eek: without studs in and it felt fine.

[schwartz]

edit: Nike Zoom Victory XC

just got them in the mail tonight and i love them

Overall: 10/10
Crazy light, awesome color (mega blue), a lot more room in the toe box than the track spike, and the heel doesnt slip around at all. I got size 12 (normal size for me) so they run true to size.

Comfort: 10/10
a lot better for me than the zoom victory track spike. i wear orthotics so it helps a ton to have that little extra space. heel is extremely comfortable. a lot more support than the track version but they can bend and flex very well.

Plate: 10/10
rubber bottom with six spikes.

Durability: ??/10
just got them so ill edit later if anything goes wrong.

Pros:more support, great cushion, awesome colors, insanely light
Cons: none come to mind at all.

[Cocakula]

the fact that its called the victory xc is kind of a misnomer, its more like the matumbo xc...anyways, it should be able to handle asphalt, I did striders in them on it :eek: without studs in and it felt fine.

Would the actual spikes hold up on some asphalt?

[Alex800]

Just a quick question. How is the lockdown on the mambas? Good enough for a fast 800 on the tight turns of an indoor track?

[RunFreer]

Would the actual spikes hold up on some asphalt?

Not for a long time, just like any spikes wouldn't hold up on asphalt. It just wears out the metal too quickly.

[WillyNilly]

Just a quick question. How is the lockdown on the mambas? Good enough for a fast 800 on the tight turns of an indoor track?
I ran about 12 races in them last winter, mostly 8s and I had no problem at all.

[RunFreer]

Victory XC Spike

These things come in a ton of different colors. Fit is similar to the matumbo. They have a carbon fiber shank in the midsole, a rubber heel and horshoe near the spike plate. at the very center of the plate there is exposed foam.

Fit: 9/10
The toe box is very narrow, its as if they didnt want them to have a glove like fit. Also the arch support is a little much for me, but I think it helps. The heel by the Achilles causes a little bit of blistering, for anyone that goes barefoot just a heads up.

Weight: Light compared to most XC spikes, and even some track spikes. Don't expect them to blow your mind, they feel almost double a Victory track spike.

Durability: X/10
For now, these things have held up. Granted its only been light stuff for them. The true test will come on a real XC course.

First Impressions: I wore these for 3 workouts: a 30 min LT run on a golf course, and a 200 on 200 off 4 mile workout. On the golf course they were great, helped me stay on my toes, good lockdown. On the track they were also fine, plenty of lockdown (didnt notice any shifting).

[RBK2006]

Has anyone worn their Vic XCs' on the track yet? I'm looking for something with a bit more cushion and support than the normal Victory to wear during track workouts.

Or would I be better off with a pair of 'Tumbos instead?

[RunFreer]

Has anyone worn their Vic XCs' on the track yet? I'm looking for something with a bit more cushion and support than the normal Victory to wear during track workouts.

Or would I be better off with a pair of 'Tumbos instead?

I just posted a full review, and I said I ran with them for 2 track workouts.

On the track they were also fine, plenty of lockdown (didnt notice any shifting).

They definitely have more support than vics. Nevertheless, I prefer the vics.

[XcXc]

Victory XC Spike

These things come in a ton of different colors. Fit is similar to the matumbo. They have a carbon fiber shank in the midsole, a rubber heel and horshoe near the spike plate. at the very center of the plate there is exposed foam.

Fit: 9/10
The toe box is very narrow, its as if they didnt want them to have a glove like fit. Also the arch support is a little much for me, but I think it helps. The heel by the Achilles causes a little bit of blistering, for anyone that goes barefoot just a heads up.

Weight: Light compared to most XC spikes, and even some track spikes. Don't expect them to blow your mind, they feel almost double a Victory track spike.

Durability: X/10
For now, these things have held up. Granted its only been light stuff for them. The true test will come on a real XC course.

First Impressions: I wore these for 3 workouts: a 30 min LT run on a golf course, and a 200 on 200 off 4 mile workout. On the golf course they were great, helped me stay on my toes, good lockdown. On the track they were also fine, plenty of lockdown (didnt notice any shifting).

Did you get yours the same size as your matumbos?

[RunFreer]

yes. While I don't have matumbos, my size in them is a 9.5. I've tried them out a few times.

[RBK2006]

I just posted a full review, and I said I ran with them for 2 track workouts.



They definitely have more support than vics. Nevertheless, I prefer the vics.

Sweet, sorry not sure how I missed that part.

Think I'll just get a pair of 'tumbos If I can find the red/white colorway in my size.

[RunFreer]

Sweet, sorry not sure how I missed that part.

Think I'll just get a pair of 'tumbos If I can find the red/white colorway in my size.

no worries. Yeah I liked them, just I prefer the more aggressive plate on vics.

[CiCi Ya Later!]

Does anyone know what the actual color of the orange vic xc is? Is it this
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?sitesrc=uslp&&l=shop%252Csearch%252CsearchList-victory%252520xc#l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-321772/pgid-321766

or this

http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:143996/sku:07062800/Nike%20Zoom%20Victory%20XC%20-%20Men%27s?supercat=home&cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH

If anyone has a pair they can post pic of that would be awesome.

[Burner]

its a super bright orange like this
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs275.snc4/40113_464387617008_303621377008_6414330_4791780_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4682438&id=303621377008)

[RRD313]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk267/RRD313/vicxcorange.jpgDoes anyone know what the actual color of the orange vic xc is? Is it this
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?sitesrc=uslp&&l=shop%252Csearch%252CsearchList-victory%252520xc#l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-321772/pgid-321766

or this

http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:143996/sku:07062800/Nike%20Zoom%20Victory%20XC%20-%20Men%27s?supercat=home&cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH

If anyone has a pair they can post pic of that would be awesome.

[stopPRE1236]

its a super bright orange like this
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs275.snc4/40113_464387617008_303621377008_6414330_4791780_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4682438&id=303621377008)
thats from my running store!

[Waffles]

...wrong thread buddy.

[avxc09]

...wrong thread buddy.

QFEAT

lol

[stopPRE1236]

WOW fail!

[CiCi Ya Later!]

Anyone have pics of these two?
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?sitesrc=uslp&&l=shop%252Csearch%252CsearchList-victory%252520xc#l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-321767/pgid-321766

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?sitesrc=uslp&&l=shop%252Csearch%252CsearchList-victory%252520xc#l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-321771/pgid-321766

[Waffles]

Anyone have pics of these two?
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?sitesrc=uslp&&l=shop%252Csearch%252CsearchList-victory%252520xc#l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-321767/pgid-321766

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?sitesrc=uslp&&l=shop%252Csearch%252CsearchList-victory%252520xc#l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-321771/pgid-321766

I can get you a picture of the second tomorrow morning, though I do not currently have access to my camera.

Edit for Pics: For some reason photobucket refuses to resize my pictures... (and apparently it was the first one. Oh well.)
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/waffles800/IMG_4302.jpg

IRL the blue looks a shade darker than in the pic, but its still a robin's egg/baby blue color.

[Penguin]

The arch on the vic xc looks HUGE. do you feel that at all when wearing it or it just looks that way? I'm not used to see any spikes like that, why is it like that?

[RunFreer]

It definitely is pretty big, no bigger than that of the vent or the matumbo. I can feel it there, it will just take some getting used to.

I think the big arch for runners with weaker feet, so their arch is supported. They need a large fanbase to make money, so it needs to work for everyone.

[Penguin]

I've never worn vents of tumbos...I used regular vics for track last season, so will these just feel bad on my feet if i buy them for xc? will the arch wear down or does the feeling go away once they're broken in? im just so used to spikes with no arch at all. i want to get this but...=/

[XcXc]

I tried out the vic xc's a couple days ago on grass, they are really comfortable, and the arch feels good to me. Will see how they feel in a workout or race.

[runner112]

Vic xc's have a arch similar to the matumbo's imo, but it doesn't push on your foot as much because they xc's seem quite a bit wider than the vics/matumbos. I raced a 5k on grass in vic xc's and they felt perfectly fine.

[duece+]

has anyone tried the kilkennys?

[bobdaily123]

has anyone tried the kilkennys?

they are not the best

has anyone tried the saucony a3? how does it compare to the streaks or kantana's

[xsprinterx]

has anyone tried the kilkennys?

I'm a sprinter so take this subjectively; I like them for when I ran xc. I used the og ones and all three have the same plate. I thought they were very durable and lasted me 3 and a half years and they're still strong. Relatively cheap .

[hurdling rules the world]

does anyone have a review of the mizuno tokyo 6?

Oor any one of the mizuno tokyo's, i'm more worried about the fit, do they generally seem to be narrow or wide? thanks

H.R.T.W.

[runner112]

has anyone tried the kilkennys?

Great spike, very comfortable. I ran in these a few years ago.

[elxcmatt]

does anyone have a review of the mizuno tokyo 6?

Oor any one of the mizuno tokyo's, i'm more worried about the fit, do they generally seem to be narrow or wide? thanks

H.R.T.W.

The tokyo 6's are an absolutely awesome spike. Very over-looked. I just got a pair for this season. Compared to nike spikes, they run about a half size smaller. I am a 9.5 in distance spikes (vents/milers/maxcats/etc.) and since i like my sprint spikes (powercats/etc.) a little tighter, i wear a 9. I bought a 9.5 in the tokyo 6's and they fit just like all my other sprint spikes. Tight, but not crunching.

As for a review of them...
Upper: It's hard to describe the lockdown from the straps. Your foot is locked so secure in the shoe, but the way the upper is built, it never feels tight. You will pull the straps tighter and tighter before running thinking that they aren't tight enough, but then you run and everything stays in place. The design of the straps is amazing. I'm surprised the laceless trend hasn't been picked up so much. I never want to were a spike with laces again.
The inside of the upper is some weird, woven material. Seemless and comfortable. Perfect if you don't want to wear socks. This is my favorite upper by far. They seem a tad heavier, but as a sprinter, it's unnoticeable.

Plate: I'm a 400 guy who has a natural tendency to midfoot strike. That being said, i think the plate is perfect. It's definitely a very aggressive sprint spike plate, however its not as stiff as some other plates out there. Don't get me wrong, it's a very STIFF plate, as with all sprint plates, but you can just tell that there is that little bit of microscopic flexibility in it that others don't have. I personally like this for when i'm running a 4.
Another thing to note is the spike arrangement. You can really feel the spikes dig in. Good placement. But the thing to note is the 3 permanents in the middle. They are well appreciated. You get a small spring, but without the pressure points in your foot. I was running mostly on a hard track and i felt nothing through the sole.

The only flaw is if you like to go sockless and you like to pull the straps TIGHT, the "tongue" tends to form a pressure point over time. But i only got this from running full workouts in them. Running a race or a few repeats won't do anything though.

realisticanlly, an 8 out of 10... 10 being the most perfect spike out there. I wouldn't give any other spike i've tried this high a rating. Great buy

[magnusxc]

anyone try the brooks wire?

[duece+]

I know tis is off topic but don't know where else to post it. Where can I get replacement spikes other than eastbay?(if you know where this should be posted tell me)

[bobdaily123]

I know tis is off topic but don't know where else to post it. Where can I get replacement spikes other than eastbay?(if you know where this should be posted tell me)


fttf.com

[caxc10]

anyone try the brooks wire?


wondering this too, any help would be appreciated for kenn xc as well

[cn9090]

how are the mizuno wave universes? has anybody raced in them?

[pistolpete1500]

has anyone experienced any blister problems onthe top of the big toe (the distal end of metatarsal) with the vic xc's? i got tore up today

[wokthatway]

has anyone experienced any blister problems onthe top of the big toe (the distal end of metatarsal) with the vic xc's? i got tore up today
you have to wear socks with vic xc.

[pistolpete1500]

i can't stand socks in spikes, esp for xc. I think it had to do with it being really wet

[wokthatway]

i can't stand socks in spikes, esp for xc. I think it had to do with it being really wet
i'm the opposite. no socks for track, need 'em for xc.

[MiniB]

has anyone experienced any blister problems onthe top of the big toe (the distal end of metatarsal) with the vic xc's? i got tore up today

Yeah this happened to me, except I didnt get blisters, they ripped off some skin. Every time I take my sock off it starts bleeding again. :( I dont know why they put that rough material in the front.

[ItalianRunner6]

has anyone experienced any blister problems onthe top of the big toe (the distal end of metatarsal) with the vic xc's? i got tore up today

Yeah I have had this a lot to. I tried putting Vaseline on the rough part in the shoe and that didn't work much. I think I am going to try to put some duck tape on the rough part or some mole skin and see if that might help at all.

[pistolpete1500]

yeah, i was rubbed raw. burned like hell in the shower after the race

[RunFreer]

yeah, i was rubbed raw. burned like hell in the shower after the race

YES, I totally know what you mean. Its from that stupid piece of fake suede down the middle of the forefoot/toe area. If its tightened it causes a little dimple which brushes against your foot.

[Fitzxc27]

Can somebody review the original Saucony Endorphin (not the 2)? they are on amazon for 31.98 shipped and I'm tempted to pull the trigger on it.

[wokthatway]

Can somebody review the original Saucony Endorphin (not the 2)? they are on amazon for 31.98 shipped and I'm tempted to pull the trigger on it.
They were my first track spike. Good spike, very comfortable upper if you go barefoot. fit pretty true to size i think. My one caveat with them is that the plate gets very narrow near the midfoot, so the inside of my foot would occasionally start to roll inward despite my neutral stride. then again i have pretty wide feet. I say they're well worth the 32 bucks.

[Michael Johnson]

Turbophantom 3s for the 400m

I really don't know what to say about them since I've only ever used Turbophantom 2s and 3s for sprints, but they're awesome. Lightweight for a sprint spike, comfortable, good grip, and look sweet

[twitch2]

Yeah this happened to me, except I didnt get blisters, they ripped off some skin. Every time I take my sock off it starts bleeding again. :( I dont know why they put that rough material in the front.

Sam Chalenga feels your pain

http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/236692-brooks-paul-short-run-2010/358105-sam-chelanga-liberty-1st-2010-brooks-paul-short-gold-race

[pistolpete1500]

Yeah this happened to me, except I didnt get blisters, they ripped off some skin. Every time I take my sock off it starts bleeding again. :( I dont know why they put that rough material in the front.
a week later, still experiencing this. I shouldve gotten the forevers

[averagerunner11]

a week later, still experiencing this. I shouldve gotten the forevers


Wear socks..?

[wokthatway]

a week later, still experiencing this. I shouldve gotten the forevers
having used both, i honestly think the vic xc in socks is a better than forevers sockless.
that sick, for a particularly muddy race (tomorrow), i'm going with kenn xc's.

[pistolpete1500]

having used both, i honestly think the vic xc in socks is a better than forevers sockless.
that sick, for a particularly muddy race (tomorrow), i'm going with kenn xc's.
I think I'll probably just tape the area that got rubbed next time I wear them. Hopefully I'll just develop a callus

[RunFreer]

throw on a moleskin patch, they have really small ones-the size of a penny that you can just tack on your big toe.

[rcs1113]

I dunno if this has been talked about cuz ive been out of the loop lately, but are the superfly r3s good for the 400? Its been that powercats, and i was thinking turbophantoms but i dont really like the way asics spikes fit. They're like thick, i dunno how to describe it. And also anyone got the weight on r3s?

[xsprinterx]

I dunno if this has been talked about cuz ive been out of the loop lately, but are the superfly r3s good for the 400? Its been that powercats, and i was thinking turbophantoms but i dont really like the way asics spikes fit. They're like thick, i dunno how to describe it. And also anyone got the weight on r3s?

Well all 3 are pretty good. Idk about the weight about the R3 but I'd guess like 7.1oz based in previous models. Between the Powercat and Superfly, I prefer the Powercat for the 400 because the upper is more comfortable. They both have the same plate and I love them. I'd suggest that if run more sprinting events like almost exclusively 100-400, I'd use the Superfly's. If you run the 800 and 400 a lot more than the 100 and 200, then I'd use the Powercats

[rcs1113]

Well all 3 are pretty good. Idk about the weight about the R3 but I'd guess like 7.1oz based in previous models. Between the Powercat and Superfly, I prefer the Powercat for the 400 because the upper is more comfortable. They both have the same plate and I love them. I'd suggest that if run more sprinting events like almost exclusively 100-400, I'd use the Superfly's. If you run the 800 and 400 a lot more than the 100 and 200, then I'd use the Powercats

alright thanks, its just that the superflys look so cool, and i was kinda thinking with most of the pleather material taken out of the r2, they might be lighter, especially with the mesh in it

[xsprinterx]

alright thanks, its just that the superflys look so cool, and i was kinda thinking with most of the pleather material taken out of the r2, they might be lighter, especially with the mesh in it

It probably is a whole lot lighter but that's just my opinion. I'm going to try and wait for the Saucony Showdown's imo

[SprintsFTW19]

Just ordered a pair of Asics Japan Lite Nings

http://www.footlocker.com/images/products/large_w/6007894_w.jpg

Will post a preliminary review when they arrive and I've tried them out. They'll be, by far, the lightest spikes I've ever owned (listed at 4.5oz)

[rcs1113]

It probably is a whole lot lighter but that's just my opinion. I'm going to try and wait for the Saucony Showdown's imo

Yea those look very short sprint-esque imo, also one more question since you are knowledgeable. Do you have an idea of how different the upper of the maxcat 3 is? I really didnt like the maxcat 2's upper because it really beat up my toes by the nail, and was just way to stiff for me. Like there was room between the top of my foot and the shoe. I'm also thinking these are going to be a little lighter because of the mesh cutouts?

[xsprinterx]

Yea those look very short sprint-esque imo, also one more question since you are knowledgeable. Do you have an idea of how different the upper of the maxcat 3 is? I really didnt like the maxcat 2's upper because it really beat up my toes by the nail, and was just way to stiff for me. Like there was room between the top of my foot and the shoe. I'm also thinking these are going to be a little lighter because of the mesh cutouts?

Not really sorry. I'd imagine that they're not too different. If anything they'd be a little bit more flexible; it looks like they have the flywire concept with the cable idea. Idk lol

[hurdling rules the world]

Yea those look very short sprint-esque imo, also one more question since you are knowledgeable. Do you have an idea of how different the upper of the maxcat 3 is? I really didnt like the maxcat 2's upper because it really beat up my toes by the nail, and was just way to stiff for me. Like there was room between the top of my foot and the shoe. I'm also thinking these are going to be a little lighter because of the mesh cutouts?

i have no idea about the spikes but i do agree with you on the maxcat 2's, also congratulations on the new avatar, ukfdubstep is THE youtube dubstep channel :)

[SprintsFTW19]

Just ordered a pair of Asics Japan Lite Nings

http://www.footlocker.com/images/products/large_w/6007894_w.jpg

Will post a preliminary review when they arrive and I've tried them out. They'll be, by far, the lightest spikes I've ever owned (listed at 4.5oz)

They fit fantastically. I got them the same size as my trainers and they fit like a glove. In the past I've owned Rivals, Celars, and the New Balance SDS1005 (my favorites) and these were noticeably lighter than any of those; it felt like I wasn't wearing anything.

I ran three full-out 60m sprints in them, out of blocks, to test them out.
Blocks: You can't use these spikes with blocks that have rubber/track-like material pads where your feet go. I found this out quickly while practicing block starts. There are three permanent spikes in the shoes with three spike wells for replaceable ones. The spikes sent with the shoes appear to be 1/4 inch, where as the permanents are slightly smaller 3/16 inch spikes. I found that, due to the shape of the permanent spikes (they weren't pyramid or needle, kind of just a small rod that was a little sharp at the top, thicker than a needle spike but not as big as pyramid or christmas tree) when I pushed out of the blocks, the middle perm. spike on my front foot had actually gotten a little stuck in the pad on the blocks, making block starts with those types of blocks awkward. I feel blocks without any sort of thick rubber or padding on the foot part would work fine.

Once you get going, these things are beautiful. My feet didn't slip or move inside them at all, the spikes dug in and gave me traction, and the shoes themselves were so light it really felt like I was running barefoot, just with much better traction.

So far I really like them, much better than Rivals (obviously) and I'd say I prefer them over Celar's, at least for the 60/100, but I'll know more when I run a 200 or 400 in them. I imagine without a super aggressive spike plate and how light they are, they should be fine. Haven't had them long enough to decide if I like them as much as the SDS1005s.

Early rating: 7.5-8/10

[magnusxc]

has anyone tried the brooks wire?

[Calexico]

http://www.talk.dyestat.com/showthread.php?t=107938&page=3
There's a few comments here.

[rcs1113]

i have no idea about the spikes but i do agree with you on the maxcat 2's, also congratulations on the new avatar, ukfdubstep is THE youtube dubstep channel :)

You like dubstep & drum and bass too?

[hurdling rules the world]

You like dubstep & drum and bass too?

inot so much drum and bass a bit of the commercial stuff but not that much, but dubstep - yes, and lots of it, favs. at the moment: flux pavilion - i can't stop and all the eastern girls, oh and i listen to a lot of grime so doctor p feat. p-money - sweet shop is right up my street :)

[rcs1113]

inot so much drum and bass a bit of the commercial stuff but not that much, but dubstep - yes, and lots of it, favs. at the moment: flux pavilion - i can't stop and all the eastern girls, oh and i listen to a lot of grime so doctor p feat. p-money - sweet shop is right up my street :)

I would say I'm like 53% dnb, 47% dstep.
Dnb: Dirtyphonics, Camo & Crooked, Erb n Dub, Blame, dj fresh
Dstep: Nero, Sub focus, Flux P, Muzzy, dr p, chasing shadows

I like remixes & hard hitting stuff the most out of dstep, but I could really do anything. Don't like bar 9 though beside the kickstarts remix, bar 9 is so "experimental" imo. Love chasing shadows because their stuff hits SO hard and the drops are enormous.
And I love dnb the most b/c it makes me think about life and stuff so much and I can be in any kind of mood and dnb will sound good.
Favs atm: erb n dub- slipping away, gemini- blue, muzzy- as the rush comes, dubba jonny- all in, camo & crooked- profes green

Alot of stuff on there is all within like a 2 week range, but in the beginning of sept. ukf released soo much good stuff it was mind blowing.

Trying to get a system in my car too so I can bump hard

[Mighty Mouse]

a week later, still experiencing this. I shouldve gone with teh lanangs.

Ficksed.

[rcs1113]

I have a pair of size 10 BNIB USA katana rac3rs. For stuff like speedwork/short tempos/5ks and less would these be better or streak xc2s? I like how the katanas are really low to the ground (maybe even lower than the streak xc2?) but I don't really like the upper. I dont know if its that its maybe a half size big but I feel like it doesnt provide enough lockdown.

Does the xc2 have more lockdown, how low to the ground is it, and whats its lightness? All relative to the katana rac3r

[bobdaily123]

I like the kantna's for speed work on the track because they grip so well when new.

[Fleet Fox]

Where do the endorphin md2's fall in terms of aggressiveness? I'm looking for something just a bit less aggressive than victories.

[rcs1113]

I don't think anyone has every reviewed the victory xc. Can we have one?

[whb_runner]

I don't think anyone has every reviewed the victory xc. Can we have one?

Really comfortable when you wear socks with them, sometimes will cut your feet with no socks. They have a high arch like the matumbos, and are in between vents and victories in aggressiveness. The bottom works well on alot of surfaces; track, dirt, grass, roads, and indoor tracks. IMO a really good shoe that i will use for all 3 seasons. They fit the same as my matumbos and vents.

[rcs1113]

Really comfortable when you wear socks with them, sometimes will cut your feet with no socks. They have a high arch like the matumbos, and are in between vents and victories in aggressiveness. The bottom works well on alot of surfaces; track, dirt, grass, roads, and indoor tracks. IMO a really good shoe that i will use for all 3 seasons. They fit the same as my matumbos and vents.
I was thinking about using them as a training spike. I am a 9 in matumbos, vics but those fit so tight even without socks they leave indents on my foot (i like my spikes tight). I was thinking of getting a 9.5, I don't want them killer tight but possibly able to go sockless w/o having too much room. And you can use them on road? Like if you take the spikes out for 5k? Also, they are very durable?

[runner112]

Really comfortable when you wear socks with them, sometimes will cut your feet with no socks. They have a high arch like the matumbos, and are in between vents and victories in aggressiveness. The bottom works well on alot of surfaces; track, dirt, grass, roads, and indoor tracks. IMO a really good shoe that i will use for all 3 seasons. They fit the same as my matumbos and vents.

For me I had to go half a size up to fit into the vic xc's compared to my track vics. They feel great and seemed to be much wider than the track vics or matumbo's. The arch in them didn't feel nearly as high as the matumbo's (at least for me) because of the extra width.

[RunFreer]

For me I had to go half a size up to fit into the vic xc's compared to my track vics. They feel great and seemed to be much wider than the track vics or matumbo's. The arch in them didn't feel nearly as high as the matumbo's (at least for me) because of the extra width.

totally agree here. Track vic 9.5s I have a bunch of room, XC Vics I am a true 9.5.

I am really a 9 as of the Streak XC 2 and Victory Track spike. XC Bivs run a tad small.

[terrywuzhere]

Anybody want to review the mawler? Thinking about getting them but don't want to waste the $100+ if they suck

HARD BUMP: Nike Mawler is a great race spike and great practice spike.... if you like your calves getting super tight. You kind of have to weather your legs for them I'm in good 200 shape and okay 400 shape so my legs weren't ready for a plate that aggressive for 300m repeats. Anyway and shoe you pay over $80 for in my opinion shouldn't be used everyday in practice. But the aggressiveness is unlike anything I've ever worn and I've used the powercats before. The carbon fiber is also really effective if you have to try staying on your toes in this shoe you aren't going faster than a light jog or are 300 pounds.Good race shoe though but it has permanent pins so you may only run in them on certain tracks or be like me and be sneaky.

[Runner94]

Anybody want to review the MaxCat3's? Thinking about getting them friday since my old rival s spikes are **** also how would they hold up for an 800

[matthewxcountry]

I'm a total n00b when it comes to spikes, I've basically been running in trainers since high school. In the past few months I've gotten back into maybe the best shape I've ever been in so I want to try some spikes and go after my high school PRs, but have no clue what to get.

relavent info

events: 1500 - 5k
foot strike: back midfoot (verging on a heel strike, but not quite)
skill level: slow! (5:05 mile and 10:35 3k pr)
foot size: narrowish but not narrow enough to wear a narrow size shoe. (8-9 shoe size depending on the brand)
surface: running strictly on rubber tracks, no road races

any advice would be appreciated. Sorry if this is the wrong thread, couldn't figure out which one was most appropriate for a noob like myself.

[teddy_farley]

I'm a total n00b when it comes to spikes, I've basically been running in trainers since high school. In the past few months I've gotten back into maybe the best shape I've ever been in so I want to try some spikes and go after my high school PRs, but have no clue what to get.

relavent info

events: 1500 - 5k
foot strike: back midfoot (verging on a heel strike, but not quite)
skill level: slow! (5:05 mile and 10:35 3k pr)
foot size: narrowish but not narrow enough to wear a narrow size shoe. (8-9 shoe size depending on the brand)
surface: running strictly on rubber tracks, no road races

any advice would be appreciated. Sorry if this is the wrong thread, couldn't figure out which one was most appropriate for a noob like myself.

Assuming you probably don't want to pay a ton, you could get matumbos from firsttothefinish for $49.99, and those should cover you from 1500-5k.

[MacSegura]

Could somebody please review the Saucony LD 2?

[eXKatana]

Anyone try out the NB MR800?

[BG_runneR]

Can anyone review the eldoret 2 please? Whether or not if its aggressive enough to run the mile?

[terrywuzhere]

Anybody want to review the MaxCat3's? Thinking about getting them friday since my old rival s spikes are **** also how would they hold up for an 800

look around here long enough and just about everyone will agree the rivals give your feet aids

[teddy_farley]

Can anyone review the eldoret 2 please? Whether or not if its aggressive enough to run the mile?

Haven't worn them for a mile, but I wore them for a 3k earlier in the season, and while they weren't super aggressive, I think they would get the job done in a mile.

[JohnnieXC44]

Can anyone review the eldoret 2 please? Whether or not if its aggressive enough to run the mile?

I set every single one of my high school PR's in a pair of white/red Eldoret II's, from 400 - 3200. I wasn't a fan of the miler back then and these were a nice go-between from my vent +'s. I still love the spike for it's middle-of-the-road aggressiveness. Very suitable for races ranging from a mile to the 5K.

[ANDY159]

Could somebody please review the Saucony LD 2?

I had a pair of those for a while, i tried them out for a workout and they ran really small and were somewhat aggressive.. the heel part gave me blisters though so wear them with high socks and you should be fine. I would get half a size to a size bigger than your normal shoe size.

[McGonagall]

Can someone review the Puma Faas 250? I'd be using it as a trainer, I've been training in Lunaracers/Lunaracer 2's for almost three years.
Or does anyone think it'd be a bad idea to train in Streak xc 2's?

[lucky cat]

has anyone tried the brooks pr ld's?

[ross sez]

Can someone review the Puma Faas 250? I'd be using it as a trainer, I've been training in Lunaracers/Lunaracer 2's for almost three years.
Or does anyone think it'd be a bad idea to train in Streak xc 2's?

Just ordered the 300's, should have them tomorrow afternoon... can give a first impression tomorrow night if I remember to log on here.

[BG_runneR]

Has anyone tried out the Saucony Endorphin LD 2s and the MD 2s? How are they in terms of aggressiveness and how their spike plates/ heel to toe transition feel? please review if you have these

[Calexico]

Spikes shouldn't have heel toe transitions.

[Justifiably Snazzy]

Has anyone tried out the Saucony Endorphin LD 2s and the MD 2s? How are they in terms of aggressiveness and how their spike plates/ heel to toe transition feel? please review if you have these
I own the MD2s, should be trying them out in the coming week or two. Just looking at them, they seem like a Miler with a more modern upper.

[teddy_farley]

Spikes shouldn't have heel toe transitions.

QFE

[KevinD]

anybody know what spikes these are?
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/milliondollarbaby/kkk39_jpg.JPG

[wokthatway]

anybody know what spikes these are?
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/milliondollarbaby/kkk39_jpg.JPG

some sort of shift.

[mjolnir262]

Their just the normal og Shift with a different color than the usually...
http://www.exercisedirect.co.uk/media/medium/Nike-Zoom-Shift-107063-061.gif

[Quenton_Cassidy]

Anyone try out the New Balance MR 800? Seems... promising.

[Burner]

Anyone try out the New Balance MR 800? Seems... promising.
Its a really nice and and agressive md spike but it's kinda heavy. The guy at my running store had me put a victory on one foot and the new balance on the other and there was really no comparison. If they made the 800 an ounce lighter it would be near perfect.

[LongRunner2010]

I'm looking for the best steeple spike to get for this spring, my options are the Mamba, the Lanang, the Victory or the Adidas Avanti, which one you think would perform the best out of the 4?

[RunTheNight]

I'm looking for the best steeple spike to get for this spring, my options are the Mamba, the Lanang, the Victory or the Adidas Avanti, which one you think would perform the best out of the 4?

IBGowitht3hlanangs

[BG_runneR]

Anyone try out the New Balance MR 800? Seems... promising.

Yea, compared to the victorys, they are actually more aggressive. The spike plate extends further back to your midfoot, and keeps you on the balls of your feet. I would use it for an 800. I wouldnt use it for anything over the 800 though, such as the mile or 2mile; they are not relaxed enough for anything over the 800.

[The_Conductor]

I'm looking for the best steeple spike to get for this spring, my options are the Mamba, the Lanang, the Victory or the Adidas Avanti, which one you think would perform the best out of the 4?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/OSU871316/Jesus.jpg

[stopPRE1236]

I have only tried on the New balance 800 but my friend has them and he says they are not very durable, but they feel like the milers.

[RunFreer]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/OSU871316/Jesus.jpg

kenyans wear mambas.

[runnerdude40]

Anyone on here try the Asics Japan Lite-ning 3? I'm looking to get a pair to replace my OG Lite-nings and wanna see how they compare.

[Justifiably Snazzy]

Got to try out the Saucony Endorphin MD 2 today in an 800. Side note, I'm seeing the new LDs everywhere.

Upper: I dig it. Obviously, it's not a Victory, but it's still pretty light and I found it very comfortable. Since it can go as low as 400, the fancy skeleton thing on the upper serves a practical purpose in holding it together at high speeds. Its tongue is the style where it's sewed on one side and is basically just a piece of fabric. Feels great and is light.

Plate: I've never ran in the Miler, but it seems to me that Saucony bit that design. The plate looks almost exactly the same, not that that's a bad thing. Anyway, it feels great and is plenty aggressive. It'd be a great choice for a 400-mile guy. No issues staying up on the forefoot.

Overall: A solid choice for a middle distance runner. I've never worn Victories so I can't compare them (hey, I'm a 400/800 guy), but they look like a Miler with a more modern upper, which I'm sure sounds like some people's dream spike. They're also very inexpensive everywhere online (not much more than a pair of Rival Vs at Running Warehouse, for example).

[Cxcr]

my new vics are rubbing up against my feet and making them bleed, will it stop once they are broken in, or do I have to wear socks?

[RunFreer]

my new vics are rubbing up against my feet and making them bleed, will it stop once they are broken in, or do I have to wear socks?

where? the heel, the arch, specify so we can help you out dude

[Cxcr]

top of the foot on the inside

[JohnnieXC44]

top of the foot on the inside

If it's the metatarsal joint of your big toe, you've probably got bony feet just like mine. I had the same problem with both my vics and matumbos. The solution is to either place a strip of athletic tape over the area or just wear thin socks. Personally, I switched to wearing very lightweight Nike elite socks and my vics actually fit better now.

[RunFreer]

If it's the metatarsal joint of your big toe, you've probably got bony feet just like mine. I had the same problem with both my vics and matumbos. The solution is to either place a strip of athletic tape over the area or just wear thin socks. Personally, I switched to wearing very lightweight Nike elite socks and my vics actually fit better now.

I get the same scratch right above the big toe. Tape/bandaid works best if you can't wear socks.

[ForBreakfast]

the ld2s are so amazing holy crap. and they look sexy too; seriously, no complaints, favorite spike out there.

[hurdling rules the world]

Anyone got anything on the powersprints???

[Legs]

Does anyone have kennedy xc's do they live up to the track kenns?

[runkidrun]

Not spikes but flats. Has anybody used the Saucony fastwitch 5? thoughts/input appreciated.

[wokthatway]

Does anyone have kennedy xc's do they live up to the track kenns?

same great upper, but the bottom is pretty heavy. good spike for particularly rough courses.

[RBK2006]

Not spikes but flats. Has anybody used the Saucony fastwitch 5? thoughts/input appreciated.

Had a pair of the slime green ones. Fit was great, however they felt rather clunky to me (was using the Kinvara also at the same time) and I felt that they would take a little bit to wear in.

Granted mine were stolen after about 2 weeks so I didn't get a proper experience with them.

[Legs]

Are the wave universe threes too minimilistic? In other words do you sacrafice comfort for weight?

[BG_runneR]

can someone please review the puma harambee or harambee 3? Im thinking about getting one of these spikes, and would like to have someone else opinion on them

[mjolnir262]

can someone please review the puma harambee or harambee 3? Im thinking about getting one of these spikes, and would like to have someone else opinion on them

Yeah i want a pair too, i heard they're great for xc!

[wokthatway]

the harambees are great. basically the jasari upper on the eldoret plate. the plate is stiff but not aggressive. very versatile spike, usable basically from 800 up.

[RunTheNight]

Currently have both pairs of Harambees. I love the upper. The sizing is really weird though. They feel amazing on xc courses. I was really hesitant because I had never worn spikes for XC but they feel great!

[BG_runneR]

haha nice, thanks for the feedback, im probs gana invest in a pair of the harambee 3 pro

[eXKatana]

Need some feedback on a few pairs of spikes, I apologize if someone has previously posted their feedback and I failed to notice it in this thread.
Looking for some reviews/feedback on the following:
Mizuno Osaka 5
New Balance MR800
adidas Avanti
adidas Cadence
Brooks Wire

also looking for some input on the Asics Piranha SP3 and how it compares to the SP2 model

[ItalianRunner6]

The Avanti is a great overall shoe. On the track it's in the 800m-5k range with steeple, also a great spike for XC. The plate itself isn't very aggressive, but it is very stiff and responsive. I've used it on the track and all types of XC courses and while it is still a great track spike, I would prefer it as a XC spike.

[xsprinterx]

I know the basic mechanics of these spikes but I was wondering if anyone had reviews on any of these spikes:
Adidas Demolisher 2
Adidas Powersprint 2
Puma Complete SLX Endusprint
Mizuno Tokyo 6
Brooks F3
New Balance SD 607

Anything will do; I appreciate the help

[runnerdude40]

Asics Japan Lite-ning 3 review anyone?

[>-CCwiz->]

Need some feedback on a few pairs of spikes, I apologize if someone has previously posted their feedback and I failed to notice it in this thread.
Looking for some reviews/feedback on the following:
Mizuno Osaka 5
New Balance MR800
adidas Avanti
adidas Cadence
Brooks Wire

also looking for some input on the Asics Piranha SP3 and how it compares to the SP2 model

Unfortunatly I have never used the SP2s but I own a pair of SP3s. They are a great flat! I have used them for some workouts on the road and they are very light weight and the grip you get is amazing, they feel like spikes on your feet minus the tightness. I even used them for workouts on the track in the winter(indoor 400m track) and then felt fine except the turns felt a little uncomfortable. Then I used them for a mile race on an indoor 200m track and my feet shifted in the shoes the whole race(I wore socks) and I had hip problems for a month afterwards. So overall a great flat to wear! Very lightweight. But never wear them on a track and make sure they are tight because they get very loose feeling in the upper(mostly mesh) and they are best worn barefoot!

[kick'em.down]

Need some feedback on a few pairs of spikes, I apologize if someone has previously posted their feedback and I failed to notice it in this thread.
Looking for some reviews/feedback on the following:
Mizuno Osaka 5
New Balance MR800
adidas Avanti
adidas Cadence
Brooks Wire

also looking for some input on the Asics Piranha SP3 and how it compares to the SP2 model
Maybe too little too late for this, but I was just browsing the thread and thought I'd add

I have the wire and they are great spikes. Better than vics imo, but a lot of that has to do with sizing. They're a tad on the heavy side, but super comfortable- you could run in them all day long. The plate is pretty relaxed so I definitely wouldn't wear them for anything under 1k. Right now I wear them for the 5k and 3k steeple and they are amazing.

[xsprinterx]

I know the basic mechanics of these spikes but I was wondering if anyone had reviews on any of these spikes:
Adidas Demolisher 2
Adidas Powersprint 2
Puma Complete SLX Endusprint
Mizuno Tokyo 6
Brooks F3
New Balance SD 607

Anything will do; I appreciate the help

anyone?

[The_Conductor]

anyone?

Yeah. Get Nikes.

[xsprinterx]

Yeah. Get Nikes.

I do I just have a friend who refuses to wear them and wanted to know if anyone had experience with them. Trust me I told him the same thing

[hurdling rules the world]

anyone?

tokyo 6's
they're solid spikes, the straps are good apart from the forefoot one, instead ot staying like this: ll it goes like this = . which means it loosens around the forefoot, apart from that it's got surprisingly good lockdown, the plate is quite good as well, in between celar and superfly plate in terms of aggresiveness. i really like the midfoot of it as it curls around your foot and then joins with the strap giving really good midfoot lockdown, only critiscism is of the back 4 spikes, the middle 2 are too far forwad so they really put you on your toes, but the kind of on your toes that you can only really sustain in a 100. if you can get them cheap go for it, they're good training spikes but i'd rather use something like either of the adidas' for both training and racing tbh, they're more faultless, i especially like the look of the lacing system on the sonic's, looks really good :)

oh yeah, brooks f3, essentialy g5's but with not as good forefoot lockdown and a slightly worser plate

[FleetFeet]

Powerspint 2's - they are a solid spike, i never had issues with them. I just prefer superflys/powercats over them

[xsprinterx]

tokyo 6's
they're solid spikes, the straps are good apart from the forefoot one, instead ot staying like this: ll it goes like this = . which means it loosens around the forefoot, apart from that it's got surprisingly good lockdown, the plate is quite good as well, in between celar and superfly plate in terms of aggresiveness. i really like the midfoot of it as it curls around your foot and then joins with the strap giving really good midfoot lockdown, only critiscism is of the back 4 spikes, the middle 2 are too far forwad so they really put you on your toes, but the kind of on your toes that you can only really sustain in a 100. if you can get them cheap go for it, they're good training spikes but i'd rather use something like either of the adidas' for both training and racing tbh, they're more faultless, i especially like the look of the lacing system on the sonic's, looks really good :)

oh yeah, brooks f3, essentialy g5's but with not as good forefoot lockdown and a slightly worser plate

Powerspint 2's - they are a solid spike, i never had issues with them. I just prefer superflys/powercats over them

Thanks I appreciate it

[The_Conductor]

I do I just have a friend who refuses to wear them and wanted to know if anyone had experience with them. Trust me I told him the same thing

Japan Lite-Nings are good option and I would have to assume the Yams or whatever their real name is are good as well (they're basically Powercats with a Puma logo).

[xsprinterx]

Japan Lite-Nings are good option and I would have to assume the Yams or whatever their real name is are good as well (they're basically Powercats with a Puma logo).

That's what he currently uses; he's been using them for 6 years. He wants a more aggressive spike so those are the ones that I thought of. The yams are the same as the Theseus 3 and they have been known to snap at the plate where it flexes

[hurdling rules the world]

That's what he currently uses; he's been using them for 6 years. He wants a more aggressive spike so those are the ones that I thought of. The yams are the same as the Theseus 3 and they have been known to snap at the plate where it flexes

if he wants more aggresive his best bet would be demolishers, they're right up there with the most aggresive spikes and are a solid option.

[xsprinterx]

if he wants more aggresive his best bet would be demolishers, they're right up there with the most aggresive spikes and are a solid option.

yeah it's come down to that and the Tokyo 6. I should have also mentioned that he's a hurdler just like you lol. Although I myself am interested in the Puma Endspurt. It has the THeseus 3 upper but with a different plate. I wonder how aggressive it is?

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[hurdling rules the world]

yeah it's come down to that and the Tokyo 6. I should have also mentioned that he's a hurdler just like you lol. Although I myself am interested in the Puma Endspurt. It has the THeseus 3 upper but with a different plate. I wonder how aggressive it is?


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i reckon it will be quite similar to the maxcat iii's in terms of aggresiveness, i reckon that upper is really nice though, it looks comfortable with a good shape to it.

as for your friend i reckon he should go for the demolishers, they're the better spike for hurdling imo, and that front strap can punish you over the hurdles

[ANDY159]

Can I please have a review on the Nike Ventulus Plus?

[Mighty Mouse]

Can I please have a review on the Nike Ventulus Plus?

I've gone through two pairs now. Probably my favorite spike for cross country I've tried. The upper is very much like the Lanang upper, but a little more unstructured. The plate is pretty relaxed and I really like it for cross country and longer track stuff. Let me know if you've any more questions.

[wokthatway]

I've gone through two pairs now. Probably my favorite spike for cross country I've tried. The upper is very much like the Lanang upper, but a little more unstructured. The plate is pretty relaxed and I really like it for cross country and longer track stuff. Let me know if you've any more questions.

How does it fit? If you could compare it to the way that other spikes fit in terms of what size to get, i'd appreciate it greatly.

[Mighty Mouse]

How does it fit? If you could compare it to the way that other spikes fit in terms of what size to get, i'd appreciate it greatly.

I wear a:
10.5 in the Vent +,
10 in Miler and Lanang,
9.5 in Vic and Tumbo.

[ANDY159]

I've gone through two pairs now. Probably my favorite spike for cross country I've tried. The upper is very much like the Lanang upper, but a little more unstructured. The plate is pretty relaxed and I really like it for cross country and longer track stuff. Let me know if you've any more questions.

OK thank you.

[ILrunna]

Anyone ever tried the Puma Complete TFX Harambee 3? Does it compare at all to the OG bees or is it just as bad as the II's?

Also, are mambas aggressiveness between the tumbo and vic? Would these make a good xc spike or should I stick with tumbos?

[Runfaster]

Anyone ever tried the Puma Complete TFX Harambee 3? Does it compare at all to the OG bees or is it just as bad as the II's?

Also, are mambas aggressiveness between the tumbo and vic? Would these make a good xc spike or should I stick with tumbos?

The mambas are in between victories and matumbos, yes. They are comfortable like the tumbos (i feel they strap on to my feet better than the victories) but they have a carbon fiber shank that def gives it some pop and the plate is very nice. I would run in them for xc for a 5k, theyre pretty durable. You could probably use them for track too if youre not on insane courses of anything

[ILrunna]

So should I go for a pair of mambas for my cross season? They really sound great, I'm just surprised I haven't seen more people using them over tumbos/vics for xc.

[teddy_farley]

So should I go for a pair of mambas for my cross season? They really sound great, I'm just surprised I haven't seen more people using them over tumbos/vics for xc.
I think for whatever reason (maybe just that they don't have flywire :confused: ) mambas have been really underrated. As long as the courses you'll be running on don't have too much pavement/concrete, you should be fine with them. Definitely a great spike.

[ILrunna]

Thanks, how do the mambas fit compared to vics and tumbos? I'm a 12 in victories and tumbos but I have toe room I could probably be wearing a 11.5 in both but I don't mind the extra room too much.

[teddy_farley]

Thanks, how do the mambas fit compared to vics and tumbos? I'm a 12 in victories and tumbos but I have toe room I could probably be wearing a 11.5 in both but I don't mind the extra room too much.
my mambas are half a size bigger, and my tumbos and vics fit close to perfect.

[Doob]

What does anyone think of the adidas xcs 2?

[Mighty Mouse]

What does anyone think of the adidas xcs 2?

7.6 oz. seems pretty weighty to me.

TL;DR: go Nike.

[teddy_farley]

7.6 oz. seems pretty weighty to me.

TL;DR: go Nike.

though if you wanna go adidas for xc, go with the cadences. they are comparable to the vic xcs and forevers in terms of weight, and are very comfortable. definitely one of the more underrated spikes.

[Doob]

Spike recommendations?

I have some saucony's XC 3 spikes. I'm looking to buy another pair for the up coming xc season. I'm a decent runner probably going to be running somewhere in the mid or low 15's. I was looking for a more responsive spike for a 3 mile race, and that will transfer over to track season.

Thanks!

[runnerdude40]

Spike recommendations?

I have some saucony's XC 3 spikes. I'm looking to buy another pair for the up coming xc season. I'm a decent runner probably going to be running somewhere in the mid or low 15's. I was looking for a more responsive spike for a 3 mile race, and that will transfer over to track season.

Thanks!

Vic XC's

[Mighty Mouse]

Spike recommendations?

I have some saucony's XC 3 spikes. I'm looking to buy another pair for the up coming xc season. I'm a decent runner probably going to be running somewhere in the mid or low 15's. I was looking for a more responsive spike for a 3 mile race, and that will transfer over to track season.

Thanks!

Vent +'s, Puma Harambees, Lanangs (if you can handle the aggressiveness), and Vic XC's are what I'd recommend.

[socal distance]

Does anyone have personal experience with the Forever XC 3 yet? And on one of the colors it says Black/Orange, but they look red? Any opinions on that?

Also, Victory XC or Forever XC 3 for this season?

[Yifter the Shifter]

I recently got a pair of vics. The USA, og colorway. Do these have problems with the insole thing coming unglued? I know some of them have problems but I wasn't sure if this colorway did.

If they are going to have problems. does anyone have a good way to fix this?

[LDC runner]

I recently got a pair of vics. The USA, og colorway. Do these have problems with the insole thing coming unglued? I know some of them have problems but I wasn't sure if this colorway did.

If they are going to have problems. does anyone have a good way to fix this?
Well I really dont think that the colorway has anything to do with this...just saying. In my opinion you could just glue it back if it is really bothering you.

[ItalianRunner6]

Well I really dont think that the colorway has anything to do with this...just saying. In my opinion you could just glue it back if it is really bothering you.

The first year the vics and matumbos came out, the insoles had a lot of issues coming unglued. In the later years Nike fixed it, but it was a problem with the OG vics and matumbos.

[Runfaster]

I recently got a pair of vics. The USA, og colorway. Do these have problems with the insole thing coming unglued? I know some of them have problems but I wasn't sure if this colorway did.

If they are going to have problems. does anyone have a good way to fix this?

To emphasize what other people have said, just glue it down. I got the OG ethiopian colorway, and after a few track workouts the insole started to shift near the toes. So i picked up some shoe goo laying around the house, took out the laces and glued it down carefully. Didnt have a problem since then, and wore those for another year

[Clodey]

To emphasize what other people have said, just glue it down. I got the OG ethiopian colorway, and after a few track workouts the insole started to shift near the toes. So i picked up some shoe goo laying around the house, took out the laces and glued it down carefully. Didnt have a problem since then, and wore those for another year

Same as what I have done and they have been ok for over a year now and still going! :D Even though the holes where there is a gap in flywire at the front/inside are getting pretty big!

[BG_runneR]

Can someone please review the adidas cadence? Im interested in buying this spike, and is the bottom of it (the stuff around the spikes and on the heel) rubber or plastic?

[teddy_farley]

Can someone please review the adidas cadence? Im interested in buying this spike, and is the bottom of it (the stuff around the spikes and on the heel) rubber or plastic?
I haven't raced in them due to being injured since march, but I have them. I really like how they feel, very comfortable and light (in between the vic xc's and the forevers). To answer your question, the plate is rubber, and seems like it should hold up perfectly fine to a whole season of xc. Definitely worth buying if you want something other than Nike, seems to be the next best option in my mind. I switched cause the vic xcs destroyed my toes last fall, and the upper of the cadences is so much softer. I can't wait to use them in an actual race instead of just wearing them around my house :p

[Bejing13]

My mom went to the nike outlet today and she asked if I wanted anything I said If they have any nike victory xc buy them. She came back with Rival d IV I said greatfully thank you these are great but in my head I was thinking **** these are da worst spikes known to man. I think still will wear them since I can't return them they can't be that bad of a spike right? ha anyone ever where them for an 8k?

[RunTheNight]

My mom went to the nike outlet today and she asked if I wanted anything I said If they have any nike victory xc buy them. She came back with Rival d IV I said greatfully thank you these are great but in my head I was thinking **** these are da worst spikes known to man. I think still will wear them since I can't return them they can't be that bad of a spike right? ha anyone ever where them for an 8k?

Throw them away before the aids get ya.

[Runfaster]

Question here about a seemingly unknown spike. The Nike Zoom Shift FB. The link to pictures of the shoe and short review here on Runningwarehouse (http://www.runningwarehouse.com/descpageMRS-NIKSHOR.html).

I think its a 'generation' back from the current nike spikes (Current generation being nike: Victory, Mamba, and matumbo. And the older generation: Miler/lalang, Shift FB, and ventulus 2). It seems like the miler got a lot of love, is there any reason this shoe didn't live up to expectations?

Is it not that good of a shoe? If anyone could give a decent review, +rep to them

[Fleet Fox]

It's a just fine spike. I had them back when I started running track.

I think what you'll hear consistently is that they were a little clunky and nothing special, but at the same time... mottram used to run in them so they must be decent. Better than rivals for sure.

Cushioning was good. Overall fit was comfortable, but the vent II's felt a lot nicer. My favorite part was the full length sharkskin sole. I can't think of another spike that had it. A big draw was the seemingly seamless toe, but it turns out that the inside has a pretty big seem running horizontally across the knuckles. In terms of aggressiveness, I'd say it's one of the least aggressive spikes with a normal plate... comparable to harambees.

[MiniB]

I never ran in them, but one of my teammates had them. Just from holding them they felt really clunky and heavy. I have no idea how they actually felt to run in, but my teammate liked them...until he bought victories.

[CrossHare]

I have a pair. They feel good but are definitely a bit heavy. I would say they are a good workout spike as they are fairly cushioned for a spike!

[Runfaster]

Thank you to Fleet Fox, MiniB, and CrossHare. All three of you are gentleman and scholars, +rep

[terrywuzhere]

Has anyone done a review on the Maxcat 2 or 3?

[The_Conductor]

Has anyone done a review on the Maxcat 2 or 3?

Maxcat 2s are my favorite 400 spike...what do you want to know about them?

[terrywuzhere]

Maxcat 2s are my favorite 400 spike...what do you want to know about them?

Mostly how aggressive they are and how the spike layout feels.. I'm 95% sure I'm going to have to pick up the 4 this year so thats good you like them but I tore my Powercats at the end of last year so all I have is my Mawler which isn't legal at some meets so I need another spike. I've had the Celar 3 before and I didn't hate it didn't love it so I gave them to a teammate. I hated the Japan Lite-nings to hell. I loved my powercats but the Mawler is comparable in my opinion. The only other spikes I've used are the Rival S in middle school which name speaks for its self and the Monsterfly which was just whatever to me.

[xsprinterx]

Mostly how aggressive they are and how the spike layout feels.. I'm 95% sure I'm going to have to pick up the 4 this year so thats good you like them but I tore my Powercats at the end of last year so all I have is my Mawler which isn't legal at some meets so I need another spike. I've had the Celar 3 before and I didn't hate it didn't love it so I gave them to a teammate. I hated the Japan Lite-nings to hell. I loved my powercats but the Mawler is comparable in my opinion. The only other spikes I've used are the Rival S in middle school which name speaks for its self and the Monsterfly which was just whatever to me.

I personally liked the Monsterfly for the 400 but that's besides the point. The Maxcat 2 is a little stiffer than the og Maxcat but still relatively relaxed. Many people use it up to the 800. It has a 5 pin placement; the outer one on the left shoe gave me blisters so I generally just put a blank in there for my personal feel. I'ts by no means as aggressive as the powercat or even the Celar. The closest feel that I can describe is a stiff Miler. There is a carbon fiber shank to give it a little more snap. Weight wise, I think it's perfect for what it's used for at 5.9 oz. It also has a more flexible upper than the og. Although I prefer really aggressive spikes, any maxcat is a great choice for the 400

[Runfaster]

I hope that this can help some people out. I'm going to give my take on the Nike Lunar Racer 2. I know it's not a spike, but it's certainly not a trainer. So here goes:

http://solecollector.com/live/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Lunar1-SC.jpg

I have these in the blue colorway. When i first got them a year ago, i was very happy. Finally, a nice go between for spikes and trainers. I was always getting frustrated using a clunky trainer for threshold/tempos or the beginning of an interval workout. Obviously, they were light. Pretty good gig right?

But then, i got the Nike Streak XC 3. Wow, i didn't realize what i missed out on. I thought the Lunar Race was the bee's knees because i didn't have anything to compare to. The Lunar Racer was light, and it was an upgrade. but it was very soft. It was too much cushion. Almost like running in sand, just watered down. I would push off and the shoe would absorb a lot of the force.

The eyelets broke after three months of using them. One eyelet on each shoe, where to flywire was (i lace my shoes tight, i dont want them coming undone or flying off). Other than that, they hold up fine enough.

But the Nike XC 3, now thats fun. It compact, and it has the perfect amount of hardness. I feel solid when i'm in those shoes. It also has a mesh upper, much like the mambas from nike. It breathes very well, while the lunar racer was so-so (not great, not bad).

Footing wise, the lunar racer is great, for the roads. This might seem as a duh to some of you, seeing as its a road flat. But thats all it's good for. Just the roads. It has lunar foam or whatever space age technology Nike uses for the sole. Even on the track going around turns it starts to slip and slide if you're going fast enough (72 sec/400 for me). I tried using them in winter, it was like ice skating some days. Not terrible, but you could have asked for a bit more.

All in all, a decent shoe. Its very soft, and the grip isnt good at all if you arent on a dry road. Otherwise it is what you need, a light shoe. If you're thinking about a flat for anything more than road races, go with the Nike Streak XC in my opinion

[jedwardsoner]

yeah it's come down to that and the Tokyo 6. I should have also mentioned that he's a hurdler just like you lol. Although I myself am interested in the Puma Endspurt. It has the THeseus 3 upper but with a different plate. I wonder how aggressive it is?

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Got these spikes 2-3 months ago. Firstly, they are quite a large size. This is in comparison to the powercat and the powersprint. The shoe's long but it's still pretty snug fit, wish i got it half a size smaller. They feel really good, extremely light and are strong enough for me to feel good doing 110m hurdles. Much more flexible than any other spike i've had, i guess similar to the asics litenings. I'd recommend it for hurdles or 200m. I don't like them nearly as much as my adidas powersprints, or the celars for that matter.

7/10 - you will be satisfied but make sure sizing is correct. ps they look gangster!

[RedeemTeamXc]

Can someone do a review of the Nike Waffle XC 9s?

[CrossHare]

Can someone do a review of the Nike Waffle XC 9s?

The Waffle XC 9s are a beginner XC spike but they are much improved over their ancestors. The only weigh in at 6.3 ounces I think while the Vic XCs are 4.7. There's a difference but it's not too big. The plate is very rubbery and I think has 4 spikes. There is a spikeless option too. The heel also has good grips which is good for downhill, turns and other movements on muddy courses.

The feel is probably going to be similar to the old Miler XC and Kennedy XC as far as cushion and weight goes. These aren't a bad spike and are much more affordable than the Vic XC. In conclusion; this spike gets the job done, simple as that, nothing special but not bad either.

[JayC]

The Waffle XC 9s are a beginner XC spike but they are much improved over their ancestors. The only weigh in at 6.3 ounces I think while the Vic XCs are 4.7. There's a difference but it's not too big. The plate is very rubbery and I think has 4 spikes. There is a spikeless option too. The heel also has good grips which is good for downhill, turns and other movements on muddy courses.

The feel is probably going to be similar to the old Miler XC and Kennedy XC as far as cushion and weight goes. These aren't a bad spike and are much more affordable than the Vic XC. In conclusion; this spike gets the job done, simple as that, nothing special but not bad either.

My teammate has these and after just three races the swoosh and the other laminate that is supposed to look like flywire is peeling off.

[RedeemTeamXc]

The Waffle XC 9s are a beginner XC spike but they are much improved over their ancestors. The only weigh in at 6.3 ounces I think while the Vic XCs are 4.7. There's a difference but it's not too big. The plate is very rubbery and I think has 4 spikes. There is a spikeless option too. The heel also has good grips which is good for downhill, turns and other movements on muddy courses.

The feel is probably going to be similar to the old Miler XC and Kennedy XC as far as cushion and weight goes. These aren't a bad spike and are much more affordable than the Vic XC. In conclusion; this spike gets the job done, simple as that, nothing special but not bad either.

I've worn the Shay XC 2s up until this point, do you think the Waffle 9s would be a good replacement?

[Leonard Verney]

I run the 1500-5000. I go to an adidas sponsored school so my nike spike collection is pretty useless (sort of, I'll still wear them, but it's frowned upon). I was hoping someone could give a review of both the Cadences and Avanti's as I'm trying to decide what spike to get for Christmas

[mehunt50]

Wait for V2 of both of them to come out. New Feather uppers so much lighter.

[thebeast7373]

Is it an overkill to run the 1000 in maxcats?

[The_Conductor]

Is it an overkill to run the 1000 in maxcats?

In the originals, I wouldn't recommend it, but you could definitely get away with it. In the 2s/3s, don't do it.

[xsprinterx]

In the originals, I wouldn't recommend it, but you could definitely get away with it. In the 2s/3s, don't do it.

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[terrywuzhere]

Yum Theseus 3. Review pending on practice next practice so either Saturday or Monday, but the fit is amazing it sounds like a spike cliche but it is like a foot mitten. It isn't short but the upper is a material that stretches so I can see my foot outline but it isn't uncomfortable.

[ANDY159]

Can I please have a review on the Mamba 2 and how it fits?

[FastLane]

I already have the Victorys. I'm wondering which spike would be a better addition. I'm choosing between the Mamba 2 and the Matumbo.

I run anywhere from the 800-3200.

[hurdling rules the world]

I already have the Victorys. I'm wondering which spike would be a better addition. I'm choosing between the Mamba 2 and the Matumbo.

I run anywhere from the 800-3200.

if you do the steeple at all, then mamba 2's, you can wear them for just flat running as well, they're a very vesatile spike, if not then the tumbo's, not as good drainage as mamba 2's but lighter.

[FastLane]

if you do the steeple at all, then mamba 2's, you can wear them for just flat running as well, they're a very vesatile spike, if not then the tumbo's, not as good drainage as mamba 2's but lighter.
I'm still in high school so no steeple.
Is the main difference between the two the weight and one drains better than the other? I'll most likely use the Victorys for the shorter distance events(800/1600) and the mamba/matumbo for the longer events(1600/3200).

[RunTheNight]

I'm still in high school so no steeple.
Is the main difference between the two the weight and one drains better than the other? I'll most likely use the Victorys for the shorter distance events(800/1600) and the mamba/matumbo for the longer events(1600/3200).

Look for older spikes.

[hurdling rules the world]

I'm still in high school so no steeple.
Is the main difference between the two the weight and one drains better than the other? I'll most likely use the Victorys for the shorter distance events(800/1600) and the mamba/matumbo for the longer events(1600/3200).

yeah thats the main difference between them and so if you're not steeplign then definitely the tumbo's

[aces10x0]

has anyone bought the Nike Zoom Ja Fly? it looks pretty amazing. Im wondering how it compares to the OG Powercat 2/Ja in terms of the upper, as i think thats all that has been changed.
Also, i know its kinda the wrong thread, but celar plated Ja's or Vic's for the 4/8? i heard that the Ja's with a celar plate are pretty versatile.

http://images.nike.com/is/image/DotCom/PDP_P/Nike-Zoom-Ja-Fly-Track-and-Field-Shoe-487624_100_A.jpg?wid=500&hei=375&fmt=jpeg&

[The_Conductor]

has anyone bought the Nike Zoom Ja Fly? it looks pretty amazing. Im wondering how it compares to the OG Powercat 2/Ja in terms of the upper, as i think thats all that has been changed.
Also, i know its kinda the wrong thread, but celar plated Ja's or Vic's for the 4/8? i heard that the Ja's with a celar plate are pretty versatile.

http://images.nike.com/is/image/DotCom/PDP_P/Nike-Zoom-Ja-Fly-Track-and-Field-Shoe-487624_100_A.jpg?wid=500&hei=375&fmt=jpeg&

I have the Ja Flys but haven't run in them yet. The upper is a lot more stiff and has a lot less give to it. The Flys don't feel lighter than the old Powercats. I'll report back when I run in them sometime this week.

[Calexico]

I'm still in high school so no steeple.
Is the main difference between the two the weight and one drains better than the other? I'll most likely use the Victorys for the shorter distance events(800/1600) and the mamba/matumbo for the longer events(1600/3200).
IMO the Vic is better than the Tumbo in all 3 events - 800, 1600, and 3200.

I haven't tried the Mambas, but FWIW I see Mambas pretty often in elite 800m racing, so they might actually be better for the shorter distance. Maybe Vics are common too but I just don't notice.

[GMonahan]

I haven't tried the Mambas, but FWIW I see Mambas pretty often in elite 800m racing, so they might actually be better for the shorter distance. Maybe Vics are common too but I just don't notice.

I'll second that. I'm not elite but I run in Mambas for the 600, 800, and 1000. The shank in the midsole provides a more aggressive platform than that of the Victory. The rigidity of the shank has helped to keep me on my toes.

[aces10x0]

I have the Ja Flys but haven't run in them yet. The upper is a lot more stiff and has a lot less give to it. The Flys don't feel lighter than the old Powercats. I'll report back when I run in them sometime this week.

Do you think that the flywire is a step up from the ja upper? I'd bet that they have amazing lockdown.