The Preference Thread

[Kalaby]

I thought it would be fun to have an ongoing thread that discusses our various preferences on just about anything you can imagine, with the hope that this is something of a light-hearted dialogue. I say we ask about one topic per week and then move on to a new topic.

I'll start with this one:

How do you like your meat cooked? If you don't eat meat, that's fine, just say so, as that's interesting info as well.

As for me, I'm a medium-well type of guy, with no problems eating something that is well done. I can go as low as medium, but it must truly be medium, not medium-rare being passed off as medium. Yes, I've been hassled at restaurants for ordering a steak medium-well...and those are the only times in my life that I've left a less than generous tip. It's my steak, and I'll burn it if I want to! :D

[patti]

Hmm, I love steak, though don't eat meat it very often.

I like a thick Prime...more rare than medium with cracked kosher salt and cracked pepper after it's rested.

Hamburgers medium. Chicken all the way through and pork..medium. I know, I know, you're suppose to cook more throughly..but it taste better with a tad of pink in the middle.

Now..not only am I looking forward to having one...but more so to seeing what and how WiT has his...and his discription. MMMMMMmmm.

[homeless]

Medium rare to medium. Instead of that chicken last night, since I spent so long at the grocery, I had a quick steak instead.

The better the cut of steak, the less cooked the better. Really depends on the cut.

[herr]

I'll eat anything

[Kalaby]

I can take my hamburgers medium.

Agree with Homeless, that I'll shade toward less cooked on certain cuts of meat - for instance, I'll eat my Filet Mignon medium, but again, it needs to be a true medium for me.

[XcRider]

Medium well. Tastes change though. Also, it seems that as I get older, it does not have to be as well done. I used to have everything charred. Could not stand to watch my cousin eat raw hamburger meat.

We tend to have our own animals processed or buy an animal from someone we know to process.

[wineturtle]

Steak at 138ish so general I`m in the med rare > medium school of thought. I brine poultry and pork so I can get the internal up to 160 and 145 with out drying out. Hamberger-early job in a pub owned by the Berger family and hamBERGER was the menu entry-hambuger still seems wrong to me- I am without the spelling gene-I guess most noticed :)-
patti and I do share the prattleonus verilongus gene with the chuckle variant.
oops hamberger thats a tough one I usually grind my own so I am comfortable at 130-135 at home-out in the world the order is just past medium please. I do have a couple of places I`ll order rare> med rare but I know the supply chain and they use full primals no scraps- GKNY and Pat LaFrieda Inc are two NYC/LI suppliers I trust.
off to talk with homeless

[patti]

Tell homeless HI!!


We need to have dinner WiT!

I'll rally around here and see..sometime in August

[homeless]

Hamburgers I go to med/mw. Don't trust the quality of meat as much. Bought some yesterday, but they will be turned today into what they should be- fodder for very spicy chili.

[wineturtle]

Steak at 138ish so general I`m in the med rare > medium school of thought. I brine poultry and pork so I can get the internal up to 160 and 145 with out drying out. Hamberger-early job in a pub owned by the Berger family and hamBERGER was the menu entry-hambuger still seems wrong to me- I am without the spelling gene-I guess most noticed :)-
patti and I do share the prattleonus verilongus gene with the chuckle variant.
oops hamberger thats a tough one I usually grind my own so I am comfortable at 130-135 at home-out in the world the order is just past medium please. I do have a couple of places I`ll order rare> med rare but I know the supply chain and they use full primals no scraps- GKNY and Pat LaFrieda Inc are two NYC/LI suppliers I trust.
off to talk with homeless
nice chat homeless-
patti - we will work on getting another committee meeting set for the fall.
informative>
http://www.bbqreport.com/archives/barbecue/2005/07/24/how-to-tell-when-a-steak-is-done/

a little inside on how serious hamberger folk work-
http://lafrieda.com/home.html

[patti]

okey dokey...Fall sounds better.

Alrighty then.

I liked the link.will post on grill for those not in the know. lol!

We went to Johnny Rockets the other night for burgers. I ordered a ceasar salad...and Noooo I didn't take a bit out anybody's elses.

I'm been wanting to that the kids to Harvard Square for burgers at Mr. Bartley's...I love the burgers there....

We'll have to go to your palces WiT!

[jaygray]

Used to be Mr. and Mrs Bartley's -- loved going there for onion rings and a vanille frappe!

[patti]

hey jaygray...and I'm sure our Spidey ahs eaten there as well. I lived down the street Brattle St. I was a house sitter the Ford Foundation...(nice gig).

Yeah...onion rings...I ate there almost every other day...I would side at Au Bon Pain ALL the time...


Way back I worked at a running store called Super Foot..had running hours...10 AM to 4 PM and then I would head out to the river..or simply run home..I lived in Quincy at the time.

When were you there...now.. ah...did you go to Harvard?

[jaygray]

Was there from '79-'85. Got married as an undergrad and lived in your old neighborhood of Dorchester for a couple years. took the Red Line to school every day. The Red Line was being refurbished for most of those years so the square was a big pit most of my time there.

Were we "there" at the same time?

[Dyenimator]

Steak is always medium, hamburgers medium-well.

Raw denim (http://www.denimblog.com/c/forum/thread/148896/raw-denim-guide-411-start-here) jeans > everything.

Warmup, stretching, strides IN THAT ORDER

more to come later...

[Leftfielder]

Like my burgers and steaks medium to medium-well and my pizzas Chicago Style. And I call my carbonated beverages sodas.

[wineturtle]

Like my burgers and steaks medium to medium-well and my casserole Chicago Style. And I call my carbonated beverages sodas.
fixed

http://www.bloodywellwrite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/popvssodamap2.png

[herr]

I would dispute the characterization of chicago on that map. I think the soda window closes there. I hardly ever hear any one refer to soda as pop here

[MoMoNoMo]

medium-rare all the way... you've gotta leave SOME taste in a nice hunk of meat!

[KenA55]

Medium-rare when I trust the chef to get it about right, medium requested when unsure seems to deliver medium-rare more often than not particularly if the establishment is busy and under some stress to get the cuts off the grill to make way for the next, rarely does a busy place overcook.

Pop around here; up there in our 'other' green county (Lake of the Woods county, the USA's most northern county, Alaska has no counties but rather 18 borroughs, which do not cover all of the state, the 19th unorganized borrough is huge and when maps split it up it is generally done by US census districts) on the map presumably an Anishinaabe Ojibwe word is being implied? Doesn't make sense, though - we have counties much more native american than LotW which isn't even 1.5% native american.

LL Trivia: 48 states are subdivided into local govt entities called counties. As noted above AK is different; which is the other state that uses different terminology and what is the term?

[Dyenimator]

Louisiana - parish.

[KenA55]

Louisiana - parish.

award yourself xxx rep points for immediate answer!

[homeless]

Medium-rare when I trust the chef to get it about right, medium requested when unsure seems to deliver medium-rare more often than not particularly if the establishment is busy and under some stress to get the cuts off the grill to make way for the next, rarely does a busy place overcook.


Good thoughts. Quite true.

[wayne b]

I'm a "soda" guy - raised mostly in NJ, but my grandmother, who'd been raised in and around Boston always called it "tonic."

[MoMoNoMo]

Good thoughts. Quite true.

Ah, excellent! An area of homeless/ken agreement!

I'll drink a, er, Coke to that.

(In southern Indiana, where I grew up, it was definitely NOT a soda -- that sounded way too East Coastish for us. Now I AM an East Coaster).

[homeless]

Ah, excellent! An area of homeless/ken agreement!

Homeless/Ken agreement thread? Ken and I also agree on a penal system ridiculously overpopulated by people that should not be in prison.

[jaygray]

After reading Fast Food Nation, my preference has changed.

[MoMoNoMo]

Homeless/Ken agreement thread? Ken and I also agree on a penal system ridiculously overpopulated by people that should not be in prison.

Go for it, homeless! I'm sure you and Ken would discover, somewhere, if you dug deep enough, multiple areas of agreement. I mean, maybe you're both secretly Zoroastrians, or you both collect labels from bananas, or garden gnomes in track suits. There's gotta be something!

[wayne b]

Do they really make garden gnomes in track suits?

[patti]

I have one..and a bridge for sale.

[MoMoNoMo]

Do they really make garden gnomes in track suits?

Wayne, you just have to know where to look -- I'm ordering mine today! ... ;)

(see next post)
(http://www.thefind.com/query.php?query=%22garden+gnome+in+a+track+suit%22)

[MoMoNoMo]

http://site.gnomefrenzy.com/customer_pics/2009-Halloween-Costume-winner.jpg

[wayne b]

MoMo, I'm not sure if those are track suits...we have a guy at my YMCA who wears a red track suit with CCCP on it. Sometimes you see old-timers glare at him vitriolically! (sp?)

[wineturtle]

Agree with Ken I worked a dance joint in the mid 60s- Shindig and Hootananny were top TV shows- depending on who was on that night waiters adjusted the specifications- to get a med rare you ordered a rare from one guy and med from the other. I must look for that menu we had some cool stuff for the idiom. Chinese Grilled Garlic Honey Pork on a baguette was one I reused in various forms many times.

[MoMoNoMo]

MoMo, I'm not sure if those are track suits...we have a guy at my YMCA who wears a red track suit with CCCP on it. Sometimes you see old-timers glare at him vitriolically! (sp?)


Yeah, I know, Wayne. The Yankees insignia doesn't really say "track," does it? But it turns out it's not THAT easy to dress your garden gnome(s), at least not in the style to which you might wish them to be accustomed. (Hmm, do I smell a business opportunity here?) :p

[wineturtle]

The popular garden gnome may not have originated in south Thuringia as previously believed. The latest research by German gnome historians indicates that they just may herald from a present-day Polish city instead.

The news released at the first garden gnome congress in the town of Trusetal, Thuringia shook the foundations of gnome-ology to the core.

In the course of normal research activity, a garden gnome expert happened upon an 1886 edition of the Deutsche Illustrirte Zeitung containing an advertisement from a company in Neuwedell, a town that was once in German Pomerania but is now part of Poland, where it is known as Drawno. The ad showed colorful garden gnomes for sale, said Frank Ullrich, the manager of Trusetal's Garden Gnome Theme Park.

http://www.tracktalk.net/image/0,,1933125_1,00.jpg (http://www.tracktalk.net/popups/popup_lupe/0,,1953927_ind_1,00.html)Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The garden gnome has become a German symbol (http://www.tracktalk.net/popups/popup_lupe/0,,1953927_ind_1,00.html)
Until now, the oldest document pointing to the birthplace of the garden gnome was an 1893 article from the Illustrirte Welt, which seemed to hint that gnome culture had its roots in Thuringia. The recently discovered ad predates the article, suggesting that gnomes actually originated further eastward. Gnome devotee Ullrich, however, plans to proceed with caution.

"This new evidence doesn't say for certain whether the company from Neuwedell was also a manufacturer of garden gnomes," he said. "We will continue our research."

Most experts agree that the ancestors of the modern day garden gnome emerged at the end of the 19th century at one of the three major European centers for the terracotta industry, which in addition to Thuringia, also included the Czech town of Usti nad Labem and present-day Drawno, Poland.

[wayne b]

The popular garden gnome may not have originated in south Thuringia as previously believed. The latest research by German gnome historians indicates that they just may herald from a present-day Polish city instead.

The news released at the first garden gnome congress in the town of Trusetal, Thuringia shook the foundations of gnome-ology to the core.

In the course of normal research activity, a garden gnome expert happened upon an 1886 edition of the Deutsche Illustrirte Zeitung containing an advertisement from a company in Neuwedell, a town that was once in German Pomerania but is now part of Poland, where it is known as Drawno. The ad showed colorful garden gnomes for sale, said Frank Ullrich, the manager of Trusetal's Garden Gnome Theme Park.

http://www.tracktalk.net/image/0,,1933125_1,00.jpg (http://www.tracktalk.net/popups/popup_lupe/0,,1953927_ind_1,00.html)Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The garden gnome has become a German symbol (http://www.tracktalk.net/popups/popup_lupe/0,,1953927_ind_1,00.html)
Until now, the oldest document pointing to the birthplace of the garden gnome was an 1893 article from the Illustrirte Welt, which seemed to hint that gnome culture had its roots in Thuringia. The recently discovered ad predates the article, suggesting that gnomes actually originated further eastward. Gnome devotee Ullrich, however, plans to proceed with caution.

"This new evidence doesn't say for certain whether the company from Neuwedell was also a manufacturer of garden gnomes," he said. "We will continue our research."

Most experts agree that the ancestors of the modern day garden gnome emerged at the end of the 19th century at one of the three major European centers for the terracotta industry, which in addition to Thuringia, also included the Czech town of Usti nad Labem and present-day Drawno, Poland.

Oy, do we actually have to put up with this?

[wineturtle]

Maybe we can use a bignomeial equation to get to the root of the issue.

2 steps yields

Did you ever wonder if they named the celery after him?

[Kalaby]

Next topic:

When it comes to toilet paper, do you have it streaming from underneath the roll or does it go over the top?

I'm an over the top kinda guy. ;)

[wineturtle]

Over the top. Out the back causes needless unraveling IMO.

[Dyenimator]

Over the top
Folding > Scrunching
Sitting down > Standing up (wiping)

Too much info?

[wayne b]

Over the top, and yes, TMI!

[herr]

The only people who prefer underneath are the janitorial staffs at all public restroom facilities in the world

[wineturtle]

The only people who prefer underneath are the janitorial staffs at all public restroom facilities in the world

If I come across an out the back configuration in a public place and I can change the orientation, I do.

[homeless]

Over the top. No brainer.

[herr]

If I come across an out the back configuration in a public place and I can change the orientation, I do.

sort of like Johnny Appleseed.....sort of ;)

[BlackIrish]

Not a big meat eater. My ex girlfriend was though (take that as awesomely as you want to).

[homeless]

Not a big meat eater. My ex girlfriend was though (take that as awesomely as you want to).

So she was a big fan of Petite Filet? :D

[wineturtle]

sort of like Johnny Appleseed.....sort of ;)
One step for a man, one giant leap for mankind

Helping others where I can. It may not be as important work as the firefighter who submerged himself in the China oil spill trying to fix a pump... but helpful none the less.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38337393/ns/world_news-world_environment

[Kalaby]

Forget about the more exotic things you can put on your hot dog for these purposes...

How do you like your hot dog?

With mustard or ketchup...or plain?

[Kalaby]

When it comes to hot dogs, I'm a mustard guy - preferably spicy mustard, not the fluorescent yellow stuff.

[herr]

mustard (haven't eaten a hot dog in 30 years...)

[MoMoNoMo]

Have any of you other guys out there (I'm assuming the ladies are too smart to do this) ever gotten into the habit of eating hot dogs cold, uncooked, straight out of the package -- preferably wrapped in a cold slice of American cheese? I know this is probably the equivalent of ingesting large tablespoons of Crisco, but it does taste good -- and is easy -- the two chief guy requirements for food.
(To up the 'nutrition' quotient, I'll sometimes eat a fat dill pickle along with this.)

[Zat0pek]

(haven't eaten a hot dog in 30 years...)

herr, I feel I've gained new and profound insight into your soul. This explains so much. . . ;)

[herr]

herr, I feel I've gained new and profound insight into your soul. This explains so much. . . ;)

I have eaten things like italian sausage, though. I cook a lot of hot dogs for my boys

[wineturtle]

http://www.schallerweber.com/images/revampimages/storepics.pngHave any of you other guys out there (I'm assuming the ladies are too smart to do this) ever gotten into the habit of eating hot dogs cold, uncooked, straight out of the package -- preferably wrapped in a cold slice of American cheese? I know this is probably the equivalent of ingesting large tablespoons of Crisco, but it does taste good -- and is easy -- the two chief guy requirements for food.
(To up the 'nutrition' quotient, I'll sometimes eat a fat dill pickle along with this.)

The short answer is No MoMoNoMo No
a cold dog
nope there is something wrong at the very core of that idea
Processed Kraft style American Cheese Food Slices around a jared dill will happen well before we get to the cold dog stage of refrigadeezer light dining and PKSACFS is a long way off.


I think it`s only an ounce and a half of Crisco per dog.
My choices
Sourkraut or nonneon green relish known as sweet relish in my area never both.
If I mustard my dog it`s Gulden`s Spicy Brown again as a stand alone.
Ketshup on a dog is as wrong as it is on eggs.
And eaten at Nathans on Surf Ave in Coney Island of course
Papaya King on 86ST Yorkville NYC if I don`t want to make the trip.

At home I cook franks in a cast iron skillet Still get them from a place that still gives me a slice of gelbwurst when I visit- my gray beard tricks them into thinking I`m still a kid :p :p
http://www.schallerweber.com/nycstore.html

[wayne b]

Ketshup on a dog is as wrong as it is on eggs.


I felt this way, but when someone said to me, "Did you ever eat a Spanish omelet? Why's that any different? I had to agree.

[Leftfielder]

Is time to debate pizzas yet? Count me in Lou Malnati's corner.

http://www.loumalnatis.com/

http://www.loumalnatis.com/images/photo.jpg

[wineturtle]

That is a casserole it is not pizza
deepdish casseroles have their place but that place does not include a pizza discussion.
Hard line traditional pie guy.


see my comments
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22197&p=307985&hilit=pizza#p307985


Where is TFFlyer to tell us about the New York Fold and the Finger Tip-lift (or is it the fingertip lift?)

[herr]

That is a casserole it is not pizza
deepdish casseroles have their place but that place does not include a pizza discussion.
Hard line traditional pie guy.


see my comments
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22197&p=307985&hilit=pizza#p307985


Where is TFFlyer to tell us about the New York Fold and the Finger Tip-lift (or is it the fingertip lift?)

I believe in Chicago, Deep Dish counts as Pizza.

I'm just sayin...

[wineturtle]

I believe in Chicago, Deep Dish counts as Pizza.

I'm just sayin...


You are correct sir, when I am in Chicago I will call it pizza.

[herr]

You are correct sir, when I am in Chicago I will call it pizza.


fair enough. When I am in New York, I will call it America ;)

[wineturtle]

fair enough. When I am in New York, I will call it America ;)

Only The Bronx is in America-- the rest of us NYers live on islands off the coast of North America.

[herr]

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/newyorker2.JPG

[wayne b]

What's going on here? It seems to me that you guys are looking around for things to annoy others with their differences. I am not really a fan of deep-dish pizza, but i'm willing to accept it as pizza. Similarly, New York is America, if perhaps one of the most exotic and unusual parts...and with politics that may differ from that of much of the rest of America.

I had a Canadian tell me Toronto isn't Canada this week - it's more cosmopolitan, much more multi-cultural, etc. Same deal! If America wasn't heterogeneous, it wouldn't be America...some recent examples of places that tried to restore homogeneity include Nazi Germany and Bosnia...I'm not sure we really want to consider the prospect.

[wineturtle]

:D :D What's going on here? It seems to me that you guys are looking around for things to annoy others with their differences. I am not really a fan of deep-dish pizza, but i'm willing to accept it as pizza. Similarly, New York is America, if perhaps one of the most exotic and unusual parts...and with politics that may differ from that of much of the rest of America.

I had a Canadian tell me Toronto isn't Canada this week - it's more cosmopolitan, much more multi-cultural, etc. Same deal! If America wasn't heterogeneous, it wouldn't be America...some recent examples of places that tried to restore homogeneity include Nazi Germany and Bosnia...I'm not sure we really want to consider the prospect.

From Italian flatbread to The Hitlerization of the USA in one step - That is some deep stuff...

[herr]

What's going on here? It seems to me that you guys are looking around for things to annoy others with their differences. I am not really a fan of deep-dish pizza, but i'm willing to accept it as pizza. Similarly, New York is America, if perhaps one of the most exotic and unusual parts...and with politics that may differ from that of much of the rest of America.

I had a Canadian tell me Toronto isn't Canada this week - it's more cosmopolitan, much more multi-cultural, etc. Same deal! If America wasn't heterogeneous, it wouldn't be America...some recent examples of places that tried to restore homogeneity include Nazi Germany and Bosnia...I'm not sure we really want to consider the prospect.

Toronto is basically like Chicago: huge multi-ethnic city on a lake. The difference is that Toronto is cleaner, more polite and people there enunciate more clearly when they talk.

[Kalaby]

I really enjoy Chicago-style - definitely a different experience than the norm for a New Yorker when it comes to eating pizza.

I'm a regular slice kinda guy - prefer it with a lot of sauce and not overly cheesy. I'll eat with toppings from time to time, but plain is almost always my first choice.


P.S. Marble Hill residents would say they're part of New York County...and they're on the mainland of the U.S.

[wineturtle]

Yes by law they are Manhattanites.

The story of the Harlem River Canal explains the duality of Marble Hill.
Vist my friend Ted Lutz at his bar Pipers Kilt and he will explain it all... it`s on B`way south of VCP track and XC course.

[phantomtofu]

I like my pizza to be a meal in every bite- supreme (pepperoni, sausage, onions, mushrooms, olives, bell peppers) deep-dish with extra everything but cheese, since too much cheese can ruin it.

Going back to hot dogs, mustard is a must. I love a polish sandwich with a sliced polish dog, melted swiss, spicy mustard, sauerkraut, and a pickle on rye.

[wineturtle]

Meanwhile
Is time to debate pizzas yet? Count me in Lou Malnati's corner.

http://www.loumalnatis.com/

http://www.loumalnatis.com/images/photo.jpg

[wineturtle]

bump because I'm The Mayor!

[jaygray]

well okay then

I prefer my veggies with butter and chicken stock. That makes 'em edible.

I prefer my eggs to be over easy with a sprinkling of parmesan and a dash of tabasco.

I prefer my pizza from Chicago.

I prefer my gin & tonic with Tanqueray.

I prefer my baseball at Fenway.

I prefer my music from the 1740's and the 1970's.

I prefer my television shows to include Diana Rigg (not now, but then)

I prefer my track and field events to be @ Stanford (as opposed to Hayward).

I prefer Montaigne.

I prefer Dan-o to Joe Friday or Artemus Gordon.

I prefer Morgan Freeman in only one role, in the Electric Company.

[patti]

I prefer chunky peanut butter from Trader Joe's over any other brand!

I prefer "Great Value" brand (wally world) raspberry jam over all of the other brands. (I've tried them all).

I prefer Hershey's Dark Chocolate on my hot fudge sundae over any other brand(I've tried them all).

I prefer a house full of pets than not having any.

I prefer my veggies with olive oil and garlic.

I prefer Hunt's over Heinz.

I prefer thin crust to "Chicago" stlye pizza.

I prefer Quizno's to Subway.

I prefer rabbit shows to running events of late (so shoot me).

I prefer tea to coffee (now).

I prefer laptops to pc's.

I prefer cell phones to land lines.

I prefer my listening to my kids practicing music to actually buying a cd. ( I wear ear muffs).

I prefer using real cloth napkins to paper (yuck). (I've been known to bring my own...yeah...and when I pack lunches I put in cloth napkins).

I prefer to have company when I eat...and a newspaper has been considered company at times.

I prefer "Ellen" over "Oprah".

I prefer "Dr. Oz over "The Doctors" show.

I prefer TVland TV over most channels.

I prefer "Color Splash" over "Divine Design".

[wineturtle]

I prefer never learning how to listen to the messages left on my cell phones to never learning how to listen to messages on my landline.


:p fixed

[jaygray]

Chunky peanut butter is a schismatic religious matter.

[patti]

LOL!!!

LOL!! Oh WIT! I'm trying...I'm trying...I still have the kids listen to my messages...when I can remember to remind them to see if I have any messages on my cell...lol!! :D But I'm learning to carry my cell around with me most of the time

And yes, jaygray...yes, you got that right...CHUNKY! :D

[wineturtle]

In general the east coast eats more creamy than chunky with the west coast reversing that ratio. Again in general, women and children, of both sexes, prefer the smooth and men opt for the chunky style. Both are made the same way with the chunky getting pieces added at the end of the process.

Things WiT knows that most folk don't # 34276

In SW Pennsylvania near the West Virginia border there are towns called Upper Peanut and Lower Peanut Pa.. One should not assume Peanut PA sits between them. Peanut PA while in PA is more a suburb of Youngtown Ohio and is about 100 miles north of Upper Peanut and Lower Peanut.
(smug emotocon here!)

[wineturtle]

I prefer my butter and chicken stock sans veggies.

I prefer my eggs scrambled loose or in omlette form.

I prefer my pizza from a coal fired brick oven.

I prefer my beverage be anything but gin.

I prefer my baseball at the Old Yankee Stadium or The Polo Grounds.

I prefer my music from 1950 to 1970ish.

I prefer my television shows to include pretty women

I prefer my track and field events to be live.

I prefer Jerry Orbach to play my cop.

I prefer my women to be smarter than I am---prettier too! oh and tall with long dark red hair.

[jaygray]

I prefer a German Riesling with most anything.

[herr]

I prefer a German Riesling with most anything.

Germans drink a good dry Riesling with trout and parsley potatoes--for good reason!

[geds]

to an auslesen

i prefer my BBQ to be NC Western style

i prefer thin crust to thick

i prefer my veggies raw except peas on cornbread with pot licker

i prefer my cornbread to be buttermilk

i prefer dark chocolate to any other sweet

i prefer Coke to pepsi

i prefer coffee to hot tea

i prefer unsweetened iced tea to sweet tea

i prefer real coffee to anything Starbucks sells

i prefer college football to professional

[wineturtle]

Boar's Head Peppermill Turkey Breast over all other deli-sliced turkey breasts.

[wayne b]

Root Beer: Virgil's - head and shoulders above virtually all else.

[wineturtle]

Dad's was the Root Beer of my youth. Then the family run business was sold to ICMonarch a big multi product beverage company in the 1970s. Nothing good came of that.
I have not found a rootbeer that I really like since.
The Ronner Family owned an icecream parlor around the corner for my childhood home and "Pops" Ronner made a special style vanilla icecream for rootbeer floats-he used Dad's.
He made a seasonal Black Raspberry Ice Cream ---perfection!
I agree that Virgil's is good but it's flavor profile does not wow me I think the anise& allspice tones throw off the overall balance.

Fanya and I just went through a backfboard rootbeer conversation have you been reading our PMs?