O My God

[greenman]

Here are the overall state cross country rankings by Illinois Prep High School Sports:

http://illinoisprep.com/rankings


1 York Jack Driggs leads a typicaly strong Duke squad.
2 Belvidere North Defending 2a state champs.
3 Normal West Looking to improve with several strong returners.
4 Edwardsville Garrett Sweatt is a strong number 1 for downstate Edwardsville
5 Lockport Lockport primed for a top 5 run
6 Beacher Returns 2 of the top 5 runners in 2a
7 Palatine Led by A.J. Laskowske, Palatine looks for a top 5 finish in 3a
8 Maine South The Hawks have have a good chance at consecutive top 10 finish
9 Loyola Last years 3a runnerup is hungry for more
10 U-High Has uphill battle, to unseat defending state champ, Belvidere North

[kapolpak]

hah so these are a joke, right?

[OutoftheShadows]

No, those are completely serious. How does returning 2 runners from your top 5 in 2A not make you a top team contender out of all 3 classes?

[greatfuture2come]

Because Beecher is actually 1A. They blew the state title last year, got 3rd two points behind first place, but a runner got DQ'd so they got 6th

[OutoftheShadows]

I was being sarcastic. Either way you need 5 guys on your team which this guy didn't take into account when doing rankings, most notably by having Maine South and Edwardsville up there.

[xc runner15]

these are seriously a joke. I actually don't mind the first two choices at all, yorks easy to put up there and belvidere north could arguably be the best team in the state this year. but after that, its terrible. i mean, a class a team? idc how good beecher is, theyll be lucky to have 5 under 16, maybe 2 under 15 at best. Thats standard for a good 3a team

[watch me run]

These are rediculous lol. I don't think this guy did any research at all.

[geednimmer]

Ya... they even spelled "beacher" wrong..... it's supossed to be Beecher. And they are 1A. Have 5 runner's under 16. And probably 2 under 15. So not too shabby, but I don't think that would warrant a 6th place overall.

[rHowe11]

No Naperville schools??? No OPRF?? I could easily make better rankings

[Chonka10]

Well at least the IL board is somewhat active again

[HappyJack]

Well at least the IL board is somewhat active again

It would be nice to have a Home Page to go with the IL Board.:(
Dyestat doesn't even have one. Bad idea for going over to ESPN. The forums are dead also, cobwebs and dust all over the place.

[PenultimateStep]

Well at least the IL board is somewhat active again

"There is no stronger bond of friendship than a mutual enemy"
-Frankfort Moore

[greenman]

The biggest joke is Normal at #3 and Edwardsville at #4. They have absolutely nothing after their first two runners and the top teams from their sectional return many guys who are better at the 3-4-5 positions....in fact O'Fallon could possibly be a top ten team.

[greatfuture2come]

Well at least the IL board is somewhat active again

Up until now we have been the state with the most posts. But as of today New Jersey passed us. Not in my book. Illinois FTW

[DirtyRobe]

Something is fishy here. I think this is a hardcore troll job.

[watch me run]

Up until now we have been the state with the most posts. But as of today New Jersey passed us. Not in my book. Illinois FTW

We need a thread with a sole purpose of just beating new jersey

[greatfuture2come]

We need a thread with a sole purpose of just beating new jersey

QFE Agreed

[DirtyRobe]

We need a thread with a sole purpose of just beating new jersey

Your wish is my command

[SOS]

Up until now we have been the state with the most posts. But as of today New Jersey passed us. Not in my book. Illinois FTW

is nj good at xc, as a state? or just a lot of people who like to talk?

[greatfuture2come]

From what I am aware, they have a few national quality teams. They always feel cheated in the rankings because they say how hilly their courses are compared to us in Illinois, but imo it is very difficult to rank teams nationally. Just wait for some post state races to settle it. I'm surprised that Texas and California don't have a lot of posts. They are strong in cross country.

[Eseals]

When building the top ten teams in the state of Illinois for Cross Country we use a different system then most.

- We rank teams based on what we think they will do at the state meet, not how well they perform in Dual meets.

- throw out all the classes. For sports like swimming,track & field, and cross country this is very easy. Everyone competing is on a level playing field.

- We then take the top performances and score them as if it were a real meet.

Based on the performances from last year's state meet (taking out the Seniors), these are the top teams for the pre-season rankings. Big team or small, Chicago-land area or South of Kankakee, it doesn't matter in these sports. You perform with a top time, we believe you deserve the right to be ranked in the top 10.

Check out the segment we did on last year's state track meet. The teams who won in the big classes, don't always do well if you put everyone in the same pool.

Girls Track and Field State Meet
http://illinoisprep.com/best-girls-track-team

Boys Track and Field State Meet
http://illinoisprep.com/best-boys-track-field-team


Eric
Illinois Prep

[greenman]

Eric:

How would you justify Oak Park River Forest being ranked behind, say Edwardsville, let alone not ranked at all? A simple glance tells you E-ville is terribly weak at the critical 3-4-5 positions, which will result in a ton of points. Virtually every top 10 team in AAA had all their runners under 16:00 and for the top 5 teams...15:44.....that gives you some perspective.


OPRF returnees:

Malachy Schrobilgen Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) So 14:56
Jack Stapleton Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) Jr 15:48
Sam Fourman Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) Jr 15:49
Nicholas Reyes Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) So 15:54
Peter Hogenson Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) Jr 16:14

Edwardsville returnees:

Garrett Sweatt Edwardsville (H.S.) So 14:49
Daniel Mazar Edwardsville (H.S.) Jr 15:31
Chad Maxwell Edwardsville (H.S.) Fr 16:32
Austin Abegg Edwardsville (H.S.) So 16:51
Caden Cramsey Edwardsville (H.S.) So 18:15

[zoominvon1]

Eric:

How would you justify Oak Park River Forest being ranked behind, say Edwardsville, let alone not ranked at all? A simple glance tells you E-ville is terribly weak at the critical 3-4-5 positions, which will result in a ton of points. Virtually every top 10 team in AAA had all their runners under 16:00 and for the top 5 teams...15:44.....that gives you some perspective.


OPRF returnees:

Malachy Schrobilgen Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) So 14:56
Jack Stapleton Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) Jr 15:48
Sam Fourman Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) Jr 15:49
Nicholas Reyes Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) So 15:54
Peter Hogenson Oak Park (O.P.-River Forest) Jr 16:14

Edwardsville returnees:

Garrett Sweatt Edwardsville (H.S.) So 14:49
Daniel Mazar Edwardsville (H.S.) Jr 15:31
Chad Maxwell Edwardsville (H.S.) Fr 16:32
Austin Abegg Edwardsville (H.S.) So 16:51
Caden Cramsey Edwardsville (H.S.) So 18:15

+ Mazar is no longer going to Edwardsville...his family moved to Missouri.

[Chonka10]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnPB76mjxI&feature=av2e

[rHowe11]

C_S5cXbXe-4

[watch me run]

+ Mazar is no longer going to Edwardsville...his family moved to Missouri.

Wait what? Is he seriously not in Illinois anymore???

[Doc Awesome]

I think they only got number 1 right

suprised that they forgot that Naperville is in Illinois

[Chonka10]

I think they only got number 1 right

suprised that they forgot that Naperville is in Illinois

They didn't, Naperville schools are always bad at everything :(

[OnTheCouch]

They didn't, Naperville schools are always bad at everything :(

All of the Naperville schools have been moved to the newly formed Class 4A in XC. ;)

[kmatus]

All of the Naperville schools have been moved to the newly formed Class 4A in XC. ;)

LOL! Well done sir.

[Chonka10]

All of the Naperville schools have been moved to the newly formed Class 4A in XC. ;)

At least all 3 of them will get trophies every year this way

[roller coaster]

At least all 3 of them will get trophies every year this way

Is Metea Valley in Naperville?

[greenman]

It's in Aurora, but draws students who went to Neuqua Valley.

[kapolpak]

wheres that preview at

[OutoftheShadows]

Dyestat will always do stuff like this where they say the preview will be the week of the 16th. This gives them more time to slack and not worry about meeting a specific deadline while also getting many more page views as people will be going on Dyestat all week trying to see if the preview is up. I would not expect it on the first day of the deadline period.

[OnTheCouch]

At least all 3 of them will get trophies every year this way

Wait 'til they announce that the Regional site will be in Carbondale...:eek:

[stopPRE1236]

yeah the regionals and sectionals are never balanced for the naperville schools

[Swoosh13]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Ohh myy god

[Swoosh13]

When building the top ten teams in the state of Illinois for Cross Country we use a different system then most.

- We rank teams based on what we think they will do at the state meet, not how well they perform in Dual meets.

- throw out all the classes. For sports like swimming,track & field, and cross country this is very easy. Everyone competing is on a level playing field.

- We then take the top performances and score them as if it were a real meet.

Based on the performances from last year's state meet (taking out the Seniors), these are the top teams for the pre-season rankings. Big team or small, Chicago-land area or South of Kankakee, it doesn't matter in these sports. You perform with a top time, we believe you deserve the right to be ranked in the top 10.

Check out the segment we did on last year's state track meet. The teams who won in the big classes, don't always do well if you put everyone in the same pool.

Girls Track and Field State Meet
http://illinoisprep.com/best-girls-track-team

Boys Track and Field State Meet
http://illinoisprep.com/best-boys-track-field-team


Eric
Illinois Prep

This isn't track. 3A is significantly better all around than 2A in XC save a couple of teams. I base it off how they will do at the state meet also and I've never come up with garbage like that

[Coach Vandersteen]

It's in Aurora, but draws students who went to Neuqua Valley.

Technically, they draw students who would have gone to Waubonsie Valley. Waubonsie Valley draws students who would have gone to Neuqua Valley.

[zpppe]

Technically, they draw students who would have gone to Waubonsie Valley. Waubonsie Valley draws students who would have gone to Neuqua Valley.

pwnt

[Swoosh13]

Awful lot of Valleys

[slicksebhat94]

Awful lot of Valleys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_OjdpDQtYM

[rHowe11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_OjdpDQtYM


5_OjdpDQtYM

[watch me run]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_OjdpDQtYM

pretty sure hills are the opposite of valleys

[roller coaster]

pretty sure hills are the opposite of valleys


Symantically speaking, it would be peaks & valleys and hills & dales.

[stopPRE1236]

pretty sure hills are the opposite of valleys
I thought he was referring to the money in Naperville...but i could be wrong

[Academy Express]

Here are the overall state cross country rankings by Illinois Prep High School Sports:

http://illinoisprep.com/rankings


1 York Jack Driggs leads a typicaly strong Duke squad.
2 Belvidere North Defending 2a state champs.
3 Normal West Looking to improve with several strong returners.
4 Edwardsville Garrett Sweatt is a strong number 1 for downstate Edwardsville
5 Lockport Lockport primed for a top 5 run
6 Beacher Returns 2 of the top 5 runners in 2a
7 Palatine Led by A.J. Laskowske, Palatine looks for a top 5 finish in 3a
8 Maine South The Hawks have have a good chance at consecutive top 10 finish
9 Loyola Last years 3a runnerup is hungry for more
10 U-High Has uphill battle, to unseat defending state champ, Belvidere North

Who the hell is Beacher??

[Doc Awesome]

Who the hell is a Beacher??
a guy who goes on the beach?

[Academy Express]

a guy who goes on the beach?

Oh. right. I forgot...well a beach goer should definitely do well at state this year.

[Doc Awesome]

yeah, so many beaches in IL

[xc runner15]

i love going to the beach