Da Bears

[Chonka10]

are going to da Super Bowl

[chubs]

are going to da Super Bowl

lolz

[Chonka10]

lolz

shut up chubs, just because there's no football team in chubville doesn't mean you can laugh at the bears.

[chubs]

shut up chubs, just because there's no football team in chubville doesn't mean you can laugh at the bears.

Actually chubville is home to a really great football team.

[DirtyRobe]

I doubt it. But I would j in my pants. Then watch them get shat on by the Pats.

[nosoup4u]

my face when da bears win da super bowl:

http://www.sparq-l.com/stuff/images/desktops/happy_bear.jpg

[chubs]

are going to da Super Bowl

:(

my face when da bears win da super bowl:

http://www.sparq-l.com/stuff/images/desktops/happy_bear.jpg

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[kmatus]

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Three words:

Coaching, Cutler, Peppers

:mad:

[Chonka10]

Three words:

Coaching, Cutler, Peppers

:mad:

Those three can't take all the blame. The Packers completely neutralized Hester with their punter, who in my book is the MVP of the game. Everyone knows Cutler is either spot on or way off, and it's pretty much a coin toss to see what he is. The Packers defense capitalized on that. If people are giving him crap about being a quitter, he tore his freaking MCL, give the guy a break. The Bears defense didn't really show up until the second half either. Peppers was also an idiot for that head first tackle. But a lot more things went wrong than Cutler and Peppers and the slow start.

Also, I have a ton of respect for Caleb Hanie. He played a pretty good game for a third string. His two picks were a bummer, but one was on 4th and game where he didn't have much of a choice but throw it down field. His two TD drives were very impressive.

Overall, the team that played better won. I'll be supporting my fellow NFC North team in the Super Bowl for some division rep and because I'm tired of the Steelers winning all the time.

[Phenom Man]

Anyone else really hate that 3rd and 2 call on the last drive of the game? The most important 3rd down of the season and they call a play that could go for negative yards and does so consistently against a fast defense (which it did).

[nosoup4u]

Anyone else really hate that 3rd and 2 call on the last drive of the game? The most important 3rd down of the season and they call a play that could go for negative yards and does so consistently against a fast defense (which it did).

SO MUCH HATE

that was mike martz trying to be clever thinking that if they end up scoring, they'll look back and be like 'man what a gutsy call on that 3rd and 3 on that final drive, martz is a genius'

and the lovie smith timeout before that when we got the play off in time anyways.. he did that against the packers in the regular season too and it hurt us both times

oh well, can't really complain about 11-5 and making it to the nfc championship game.. hopefully we can sign an o-lineman next year and urlacher will not be too old and slow yet (his interception return was kind of painful to watch.. 5 years ago i bet he takes it to the house)... got some good, fast young receivers who are only going to get better, and another year getting used to martz's system should be good for everyone

[kmatus]

Anyone else really hate that 3rd and 2 call on the last drive of the game? The most important 3rd down of the season and they call a play that could go for negative yards and does so consistently against a fast defense (which it did).

That was part of the "Coaching" on my three negatives

[kmatus]

Those three can't take all the blame. The Packers completely neutralized Hester with their punter, who in my book is the MVP of the game. Everyone knows Cutler is either spot on or way off, and it's pretty much a coin toss to see what he is. The Packers defense capitalized on that. If people are giving him crap about being a quitter, he tore his freaking MCL, give the guy a break. The Bears defense didn't really show up until the second half either. Peppers was also an idiot for that head first tackle. But a lot more things went wrong than Cutler and Peppers and the slow start.

Also, I have a ton of respect for Caleb Hanie. He played a pretty good game for a third string. His two picks were a bummer, but one was on 4th and game where he didn't have much of a choice but throw it down field. His two TD drives were very impressive.


Look, there is a reason you gave Cutler and Peppers HUGE money.... that is, in big games to be a factor. They weren't! The coaching has been beyond questionable for quite some time now.

I say with better coaching and if Peppers and Cutler earn their money, the Bears walk away with the victory in a very winnable game and are on to take their shot at the Super Bowl.

Don't expect all the breaks to go their way next year like they did this year. This was their year and they failed.

[steady eddy]

eh, Id say it was the Patriots year if anything.

[DirtyRobe]

Look, there is a reason you gave Cutler and Peppers HUGE money.... that is, in big games to be a factor. They weren't! The coaching has been beyond questionable for quite some time now.

I say with better coaching and if Peppers and Cutler earn their money, the Bears walk away with the victory in a very winnable game and are on to take their shot at the Super Bowl.

Don't expect all the breaks to go their way next year like they did this year. This was their year and they failed.

So is failure not an option? News flash: it is not easy to get to the Super Bowl. To say that they failed and therefore everything must change is ridiculous. In that sense there are 30 teams right now that have failed, and soon to be 31 teams.

[kmatus]

So is failure not an option? News flash: it is not easy to get to the Super Bowl. To say that they failed and therefore everything must change is ridiculous. In that sense there are 30 teams right now that have failed, and soon to be 31 teams.

Only 4 that were in a position to get there this weekend....

[Chonka10]

Look, there is a reason you gave Cutler and Peppers HUGE money.... that is, in big games to be a factor. They weren't! The coaching has been beyond questionable for quite some time now.

I say with better coaching and if Peppers and Cutler earn their money, the Bears walk away with the victory in a very winnable game and are on to take their shot at the Super Bowl.

Don't expect all the breaks to go their way next year like they did this year. This was their year and they failed.

The problem with Cutler is that he is a good QB (look at his Denver days) but he has had, until recently, very little support from the rest of his offense. His O-line is horrible, there is absolutely no debate over that. How can you make plays when your O-line can't hold anyone back, subsequently getting sacked 52 times in the regular season? And look at who he had to throw to in Denver, Stokley and Marshall. Who did he have when he first came to Chicago in 09? A converting-from-Special Teams Devin Hester, a TE, Earl Bennett, and a D-II rookie. The receiving corps is only going to get better with age. The O-line showed promise in the NFCC, and if Angelo isn't an idiot he'll draft a big-time lineman. Bottom line is, no matter how good a QB is (don't get me wrong, Cutler has consistency issues that are brought on by himself), without a supporting cast, his potential is extremely limited.

I do agree with you about Peppers. He was a definite upgrade to the D-line overall but KILLED their chances on that penalty. Anti-clutch.

Rag on the coaching all you want. Remember how they were supposed to finish third in the NFC North behind Minnesota and GB? They're looking good for next year too, considering they have a good first round pick, the receivers and O-line will gain more experience, Hester Hester Hester, and Cutler can work with Martz more. I'm liking our chances to get in the playoffs next year.

[kmatus]

The problem with Cutler is that he is a good QB (look at his Denver days) but he has had, until recently, very little support from the rest of his offense. His O-line is horrible, there is absolutely no debate over that. How can you make plays when your O-line can't hold anyone back, subsequently getting sacked 52 times in the regular season? And look at who he had to throw to in Denver, Stokley and Marshall. Who did he have when he first came to Chicago in 09? A converting-from-Special Teams Devin Hester, a TE, Earl Bennett, and a D-II rookie. The receiving corps is only going to get better with age. The O-line showed promise in the NFCC, and if Angelo isn't an idiot he'll draft a big-time lineman. Bottom line is, no matter how good a QB is (don't get me wrong, Cutler has consistency issues that are brought on by himself), without a supporting cast, his potential is extremely limited.

I do agree with you about Peppers. He was a definite upgrade to the D-line overall but KILLED their chances on that penalty. Anti-clutch.

Rag on the coaching all you want. Remember how they were supposed to finish third in the NFC North behind Minnesota and GB? They're looking good for next year too, considering they have a good first round pick, the receivers and O-line will gain more experience, Hester Hester Hester, and Cutler can work with Martz more. I'm liking our chances to get in the playoffs next year.

Oh, the Kool-aide drinking.....

[roller coaster]

The problem with Cutler is that he is a good QB (look at his Denver days) but he has had, until recently, very little support from the rest of his offense. His O-line is horrible, there is absolutely no debate over that. How can you make plays when your O-line can't hold anyone back, subsequently getting sacked 52 times in the regular season? And look at who he had to throw to in Denver, Stokley and Marshall. Who did he have when he first came to Chicago in 09? A converting-from-Special Teams Devin Hester, a TE, Earl Bennett, and a D-II rookie. The receiving corps is only going to get better with age. The O-line showed promise in the NFCC, and if Angelo isn't an idiot he'll draft a big-time lineman. Bottom line is, no matter how good a QB is (don't get me wrong, Cutler has consistency issues that are brought on by himself), without a supporting cast, his potential is extremely limited.

I do agree with you about Peppers. He was a definite upgrade to the D-line overall but KILLED their chances on that penalty. Anti-clutch.

Rag on the coaching all you want. Remember how they were supposed to finish third in the NFC North behind Minnesota and GB? They're looking good for next year too, considering they have a good first round pick, the receivers and O-line will gain more experience, Hester Hester Hester, and Cutler can work with Martz more. I'm liking our chances to get in the playoffs next year.

Some very valid points. But, let's not forget the many coaching problems not only this year, but the past 3 years. Just because they overachieved this season, let's not forget why most everyone picked them for 6-8 wins max. Those issues are still there. They need a true #1 receiver, a better offenseive line, and Cutler & Martz on the same page.

[Chonka10]

Some very valid points. But, let's not forget the many coaching problems not only this year, but the past 3 years. Just because they overachieved this season, let's not forget why most everyone picked them for 6-8 wins max. Those issues are still there. They need a true #1 receiver, a better offenseive line, and Cutler & Martz on the same page.

Bump because Angelo is trying to get a WR, we drafted tackle Carimi, and Cutler dumped his girlfriend so he has more time to focus on football now

[DirtyRobe]

Angelo is also doing a great job going out and getting people in free agency with all that money we have under the cap. Oh wait...

[kmatus]

Angelo is also doing a great job going out and getting people in free agency with all that money we have under the cap. Oh wait...

He is trying to sneak up on the market....

[Chonka10]

Just traded Greg Olsen for Roy Williams. I don't know if I like this or not. I always liked Olsen as a player because of his catching ability and athleticism but he couldn't block the run at all. This also gives me hope that we will re-sign Desmond Clark since he's our only reliable TE now. Williams is a good player with the deep threat, but I don't think we need any more deep threats, that's pretty much all Knox and Hester are for. That's a really questionable strategy at this point especially because if the offensive line is anywhere near as bad as it was last year, Cutler is going to get sacked to death every game, ESPECIALLY against the Lions. Come to think of it, this trade sucks and I'm mad at Mike Martz. wtf man

[BONK]

Just traded Greg Olsen for Roy Williams. I don't know if I like this or not. I always liked Olsen as a player because of his catching ability and athleticism but he couldn't block the run at all. This also gives me hope that we will re-sign Desmond Clark since he's our only reliable TE now. Williams is a good player with the deep threat, but I don't think we need any more deep threats, that's pretty much all Knox and Hester are for. That's a really questionable strategy at this point especially because if the offensive line is anywhere near as bad as it was last year, Cutler is going to get sacked to death every game, ESPECIALLY against the Lions. Come to think of it, this trade sucks and I'm mad at Mike Martz. wtf man


The trade wasn't for Roy Williams it was to the Panthers for an unnamed player and unspecified pick, at this point. The Bears are also rumored to be pursuing Roy Williams as a free agent signing.

[Gandalf]

Just traded Greg Olsen for Roy Williams. I don't know if I like this or not. I always liked Olsen as a player because of his catching ability and athleticism but he couldn't block the run at all. This also gives me hope that we will re-sign Desmond Clark since he's our only reliable TE now. Williams is a good player with the deep threat, but I don't think we need any more deep threats, that's pretty much all Knox and Hester are for. That's a really questionable strategy at this point especially because if the offensive line is anywhere near as bad as it was last year, Cutler is going to get sacked to death every game, ESPECIALLY against the Lions. Come to think of it, this trade sucks and I'm mad at Mike Martz. wtf man


We don't need Olsen. We released Manumaleuna as well and just signed Matt Spaeth. Two good blocking TE's who are great in the redzone. Thats all we need out of our TE's in Martz's system. In Spaeth's first year with Pitt he had 5 rec and 3 TDs while Davis has 10 career rec and 4 TDs.

That being said, we got rid of a weapon...we better get a replacement via a big WR

[kmatus]

Just traded Greg Olsen for Roy Williams. I don't know if I like this or not. I always liked Olsen as a player because of his catching ability and athleticism but he couldn't block the run at all. This also gives me hope that we will re-sign Desmond Clark since he's our only reliable TE now. Williams is a good player with the deep threat, but I don't think we need any more deep threats, that's pretty much all Knox and Hester are for. That's a really questionable strategy at this point especially because if the offensive line is anywhere near as bad as it was last year, Cutler is going to get sacked to death every game, ESPECIALLY against the Lions. Come to think of it, this trade sucks and I'm mad at Mike Martz. wtf man


Olsen was just a big slow receiver - he could not block, so your point loses me. He did not help to protect Cutler...

[Doc Awesome]

We don't need Olsen. We released Manumaleuna as well and just signed Matt Spaeth. Two good blocking TE's who are great in the redzone. Thats all we need out of our TE's in Martz's system. In Spaeth's first year with Pitt he had 5 rec and 3 TDs while Davis has 10 career rec and 4 TDs.

That being said, we got rid of a weapon...we better get a replacement via a big WR
We do.

We have needed a TE since the 1996

[Chonka10]

Olsen was just a big slow receiver - he could not block, so your point loses me. He did not help to protect Cutler...

I said that Olsen couldn't block. I was referring to the O-line not protecting Cutler, which is a legitimate concern. Also, my trade sources suck, so everyone else post yours instead of criticizing me.

[DirtyRobe]

The Bears better stick to Martz for a long time in the future now that they gave up Olsen to fit his system.

He is trying to sneak up on the market....

I hope this is a joke/sarcastic. detector isn't working well today I guess

[usnspecialist]

trade is apparently for a 3rd rounder only, no player involved. Rumored WR targets include roy williams and mike sims-walker, plus the constant plaxico rumors.

[kmatus]

The Bears better stick to Martz for a long time in the future now that they gave up Olsen to fit his system.



I hope this is a joke/sarcastic. detector isn't working well today I guess

Of course!

[kmatus]

I said that Olsen couldn't block. I was referring to the O-line not protecting Cutler, which is a legitimate concern. Also, my trade sources suck, so everyone else post yours instead of criticizing me.

Sorry, I was trying to follow the logic of your post. You complained about losing Cutler, and it sounded like your complaint was related to the O-line sucking. I agree, the O-line sucks, but that's all the more reason you don't need a tight end that can't block. If the rest of the line can't block, you can not get good use out of a good receiving tight end, because he does not have time to get free. You are better off with a strong blocking tight end to enhance your running game.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0729-greg-olsen-bears-chicago-20110729,0,6898191.story

I wish we had a good O-Line. Maybe Tice can continue the little bits of improvement that occurred at the end of last year. Truth is he was handed a bunch of crappy parts and it took him 3/4 of a season to figure out how to make something out of nothing. The lock-out was REALLY bad for the Bears O-Line, who needed this off-season to continue under Tice, because now they are going to mix in a rookie.

[DirtyRobe]

Rumors of Roy Williams AND Mike Sims-Walker. Not sure how I feel about this. I think they will be upgrades over what we have now but I don't think it's the WR's any of us wanted going into FA. If they get both, I will be satisfied, if only one, ehhh...

[usnspecialist]

having a good blocking TE will help Cutler, and Olsen would have left Chicago anyways after this season(he wants to play in a TE friendly system).

Bears signed Roy Williams, who had his best year as a pro under Martz

We need to re-sign Olin Kreutz and sign Matt Forte to an extension before we do anything else.

Then get another LB and a D-lineman.

The Bears really f*cked up when they signed Chester Taylor last year. This years free agent market is full of rbs(I would have loved to see Bush play for Martz).

Also I think the Lions are overrated. They don't have a proven QB. Their defense will be good, not great. They need outside pass rushers to complement their two big guys inside. I see them as a 8 win team.

bush wasnt a free agent and would have cost too much money.

[reee]

http://www.jerseyal.com/GBP/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/cutler.jpg



EDIT: LOL



Also I think the Lions are overrated.

[notmartinmena]

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