Do You Count Strides Towards Weekly Mileage?

[teddy_farley]

My friend and I were just discussing this, I do and he does not. I figure if you are going to count mileage you run, you might as well count strides.

[spidermanXC]

I don't count strides under 200m.

[skurey]

No way

[the stogs]

i do usually but i dont usually get too worked up about my mileage. if i'm within 5 miles of what i need to be that's fine

[iRun70]

definately not

[amw2829]

Always...you're running them so why not?

[ncrunner]

Nah, hell err day at the beginning of practice our whole team does a 2-lap warm-up before distance heads off on our own and I don't really count that (prolly should that is 2.5 miles a week!!!!).

[skurey]

Do you guys count your lunges, high knees etc.?

Cause that's like another tenth of a mile you could be adding...

[Tinmanrunner]

Do you guys count your lunges, high knees etc.?

Cause that's like another tenth of a mile you could be adding...

thats like saying do you count walking...it's not the same thing. strides = running. high knees =/= running.

[mentle bentle]

How many strides are you doing that it would even be significant? It's usually <1 mile's worth every week for me so I don't bother.

[the stogs]

How many strides are you doing that it would even be significant? It's usually <1 mile's worth every week for me so I don't bother.
well we usually do about 6x150 meters so that comes out to over a half mile

[amw2829]

well we usually do about 6x150 meters so that comes out to over a half mile

Yea same if I do like 6X150 w/ 250 jog that's a good 1.5 mi. May only affect my weekly mileage by 2 or 3 miles but hey over the course of the year it could be as much as 50 to 100.

[ghamalian]

Nope, sorry Teddy but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Here's my philosophy. After I finish my "1st run" we'll call it, I usually stand around a few minutes. Then I'll do my strides, which usually consists of 6-8 50-100m strides. I'll take some time to recover after I run the strides. The strides aren't meant to increase your aerobic fitness, or tax your body. They're mostly done to improve form or increase turnover. Because they don't increase my aerobic strength or tax my body, I choose not to count them.

P.S.: It's always nice to have hidden miles anyways

[okko]

How many strides are you doing that it would even be significant? It's usually <1 mile's worth every week for me so I don't bother.

this. i also round every run to the nearest 0.5 of a mile. anyone trying to be more specific than that is just anal-retentive imo. you're never going to get your mileage-measuring to the level of specificity where it makes sense to count every tenth of a mile. and even if you could, those tenths don't mean crap anyway. are you also going to start recording it in your mileage log when you have to sprint after the bus when you just missed it? what if you want to play some pick-up soccer... "wait, hang on guys, i have to go grab my gps watch so i kno how many miles i'm logging rite now!!"

just run more and be active more and vary the type of running you're doing more. that approach may not be conducive to getting hyper-accurate MPW statistics, but it will be conducive to becoming a better runner. and unless you're the Charles Darwin of running minutiae, the latter is far more important than the former.

P.S. to ghamalian: it strikes me as pretty retarded to have a "philosophy" of mileage logging. then again, i can see how my own post might seem to delineate a particular philosophy of mileage logging. but really my point is simply that you clowns are worrying wayyyyy too much about something that really doesn't matter.

[the stogs]

i actually do log when i play a pick up game of some kind. i dont use a gps but i approximate how much i ran while playing

[ghamalian]

P.S. to ghamalian: it strikes me as pretty retarded to have a "philosophy" of mileage logging. then again, i can see how my own post might seem to delineate a particular philosophy of mileage logging. but really my point is simply that you clowns are worrying wayyyyy too much about something that really doesn't matter.

I agree with what you said. I think not caring can be a "philosophy" which is pretty much where I stand.

[okko]

i actually do log when i play a pick up game of some kind. i dont use a gps but i approximate how much i ran while playing

tbh, that sounds pretty retarded. not to mention impossible and meaningless. not to mention OCD, anal-retentive, etc, etc.

but no disrespect. i'm pretty anal-retentive about some things myself, although clearly that doesn't stop me from calling out other people for being anal-retentive about things that i am not.

[the stogs]

tbh, that sounds pretty retarded. not to mention impossible and meaningless. not to mention OCD, anal-retentive, etc, etc.

but no disrespect. i'm pretty anal-retentive about some things myself, although clearly that doesn't stop me from calling out other people for being anal-retentive about things that i am not.
it's not being anal retentive. i said earlier i usually dont give a **** about my mileage as long as i get close. the point of having a log is to be able to look back and see where something went right or wrong not solely to count miles. so i log any kind of strenuous physical activity i do

[okko]

it's not being anal retentive. i said earlier i usually dont give a **** about my mileage as long as i get close. the point of having a log is to be able to look back and see where something went right or wrong not solely to count miles. so i log any kind of strenuous physical activity i do

i guess that makes some sense.

[the stogs]

i guess that makes some sense.
it actually makes a lot of sense

[okko]

it actually makes a lot of sense

well it doesn't make sense insofar as playing basketball or whatever isn't equivalent to logging x number of miles. i agree that it makes sense to keep track of your "strenuous physical activity," but i think it would make a lot more sense to record it as, for instance, 10 miles for the day, plus 30 mins of basketball, rather than recording it as 12 miles for the day just because you think you ran 2 miles during those 30 minutes of basketball.

[the stogs]

well it doesn't make sense insofar as playing basketball or whatever isn't equivalent to logging x number of miles. i agree that it makes sense to keep track of your "strenuous physical activity," but i think it would make a lot more sense to record it as, for instance, 10 miles for the day, plus 30 mins of basketball, rather than recording it as 12 miles for the day just because you think you ran 2 miles during those 30 minutes of basketball.
i mark it down as playing basketball, but then i assign it a value of how many miles i think it's worth. depending on effort, sport, time played whatever. i never use it to replace a run, but it helps me when i'm looking at it see how much work i've done in a week. think of it as a common denominator

[HappyJack]

I can see how some people might think logging strides is just logging junk miles, but if your training is based on a % of weekly mileage, intervals@10% & reps.@8% for example, then you should log all miles run. We run an 800m w/up before team drills & 8x100m strides every day and 4x100m strides before any I, R or T w/o. For us that's an extra 6 3/4 miles per week. If you're training by % you're able to safely incorporate a few more intervals and reps. into your day.

[Chonka10]

I don't count strides. My team also jogs a mile as part of our warm up routine every day but I don't count that either. The warm up jog is a given, and it's a warm up, so I don't really count it, and strides are more or less in the same boat since we do them every day we don't have a workout or long run. I'll add a little note in my log of how many strides I did but that's as far as I go.

[Chonka10]

I can see how some people might think logging strides is just logging junk miles, but if your training is based on a % of weekly mileage, intervals@10% & reps.@8% for example, then you should log all miles run. We run an 800m w/up before team drills & 8x100m strides every day and 4x100m strides before any I, R or T w/o. For us that's an extra 6 3/4 miles per week. If you're training by % you're able to safely incorporate a few more intervals and reps. into your day.

Double post....

Those percentages are used as guidelines. They don't necessarily have to be followed to the T. Humans aren't robots that need to be mathematically precise about physical activity, those percentages are merely recommendations. Obviously doing 50x400 in 67 secs or 20 mile tempo runs when you do 50 miles a week is stupid, but you won't automatically become a worse runner because you ran a couple more 200's or 800's than your're supposed to.

Also, if you count junk miles toward your overall mileage, wouldn't you be cheating yourself a little by not running true mileage that directly helps you get better, therefore overshooting your percentages anyway?

[the stogs]

i think it's just important to write down everything you do. if something goes wrong you wanna be able to look back and say "well her's something i should change" or vice versa if things go well. all in all it doesnt matter what you count your miles as as long as you're smart and do what you're suposed to

[HappyJack]

Double post....

Those percentages are used as guidelines. They don't necessarily have to be followed to the T. Humans aren't robots that need to be mathematically precise about physical activity, those percentages are merely recommendations. Obviously doing 50x400 in 67 secs or 20 mile tempo runs when you do 50 miles a week is stupid, but you won't automatically become a worse runner because you ran a couple more 200's or 800's than your're supposed to.

Also, if you count junk miles toward your overall mileage, wouldn't you be cheating yourself a little by not running true mileage that directly helps you get better, therefore overshooting your percentages anyway?
You may disagree but I believe training by % is a smart way to train. You only need to run x amount in training. Research shows that doing more than you should is worse than doing less.

I didn't say I thought they were junk miles but that some people might. Actually junk miles from what I understand are an extra mile or two which aren't really necessary for training but run to just pad your weekly total so you can say you ran 100 miles last week.

[Equinox2100]

i actually do log when i play a pick up game of some kind. i dont use a gps but i approximate how much i ran while playingtbh, that sounds pretty retarded. not to mention impossible and meaningless. not to mention OCD, anal-retentive, etc, etc.

but no disrespect. i'm pretty anal-retentive about some things myself, although clearly that doesn't stop me from calling out other people for being anal-retentive about things that i am not.


so he ran....and you ran.....and you disagree about....

okay. just making sure.

[JActon]

The only reason I could see for doing this is the reason Stogs said, about looking back.

If you're recording it because it's an extra 3 miles a week or 100 miles a year, I don't really see the point. If you want to run 60 mpw, and do x amount of miles in strides, now you're only doing 60-x mpw because let's be honest, strides aren't tiring you out, or helping you aerobically so they're really shouldn't be counted for this reason.

To rephase Skurey's question, for those who do dynamic stretching and do like 15 meters of stretching then jog 15 meters, do you count the latter half of that?

[engolto]

Question:

Do you guys count your lunges, high knees etc.?

Cause that's like another tenth of a mile you could be adding...

Responses:

thats like saying do you count walking...it's not the same thing. strides = running. high knees =/= running.

To rephase Skurey's question, for those who do dynamic stretching and do like 15 meters of stretching then jog 15 meters, do you count the latter half of that?

im gonna have to go ahead and ask you guys to check your sarcasm detectors.

[pistolpete1500]

no way man, i have way too much pride of being a runner to count that sprinting ****. if it ain't over 8 miles, i don't count it

[Calexico]

no way man, i have way too much pride of being a runner to count that sprinting ****. if it ain't over 8 miles, i don't count it
you're a basketball player????????

[tomquentin]

My friend and I were just discussing this, I do and he does not. I figure if you are going to count mileage you run, you might as well count strides.

I do

[ILXC9413]

I only count it if I'm low on miles for the week, and if my few times doing strides gets it there, then I'll log it. If it's not the case then I don't.

[iRun70]

I only count it if I'm low on miles for the week, and if my few times doing strides gets it there, then I'll log it. If it's not the case then I don't.

Should'nt you try to be as consistent as possible? I dont see what you are trying to get out of this method if its giving you inaccurate miles. Either count strides or dont, not sometimes count them and sometimes not.

[Quenton_Cassidy]

I will count them if its like more than 3 or 4. Usually when I do strides I will do like 100m of strides, then jog 100, then go into the next. If I do 8-10 thats more than a mile.

Wouldn't you count a 4x200 w/ 200 jog after each? Same principle in a way?

[IMP 200]

Strides to me are semi-like speedwork so I usually count them if I do a few reps (like 6-8)

[JActon]

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im gonna have to go ahead and ask you guys to check your sarcasm detectors.


Maybe you should check yours...

[who do you love]

Any running I do I count as mileage, so that includes strides. I usually do 10x100m w/ 100m jog rest, so that's an extra 2k of continuous running every time I do them, so it makes sense to log that.

I don't really worry about mileage anyway, I look at the specific work that was done and that needs to be done each day. I do what I feel is necessary every day, and then figure out how many miles I ran at the end of the week. 2 weeks could have the same mileage but could be completely different weeks of training. A 70 mile week could mean 2 runs of 5 miles a day at 8 minute pace, or one 10 run a day at 6 minute pace...those are completely different in terms of intensity and potential benefit.