NCAA Division I Indoor Championship

[yoshi]

The list of accepted athletes was supposed to be posted by 7 p.m. Eastern time today. 7 p.m. has come and gone.

Anyway, here is the link for when the accepted declarations are posted.

http://www.rtspt.com/ncaa/d1indoor11/

Let's hear everyone's thoughts on the meet.

[orthostice]

Event 4 Men 800 Meter Run Prelims
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Name Year School Seed
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1 Elijah Greer SO Oregon 1:47.02D
2 Michael Preble JR Texas A&M 1:47.27D
3 Chris Carrington SO George Mason 1:47.30D
4 Cory Primm SR UCLA 1:47.31D
5 Casimir Loxsom SO Penn State 1:47.36D
6 Michael Rutt SR Connecticut 1:47.41D
7 Fred Samoei SR Alabama 1:47.41D
8 Joey Roberts JR Texas A&M 1:47.54D
9 Zach Beth SR Wisconsin 1:47.71D
10 Zach Mellon SO Wisconsin 1:47.87D
11 Sharif Webb SR Kentucky 1:47.91D
12 Harun Abda SO Minnesota 1:47.95D
13 Erik Sowinski JR Iowa 1:47.98D
14 Joe Abbott JR Washington St 1:48.05D
15 Aaron Evans JR Georgia 1:48.07D
16 Chuol Dey SO Arkansas 1:48.08D

Event 5 Men 1 Mile Run Prelims
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Name Year School Seed
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1 Patrick Casey SO Montana State 3:54.59D
2 Miles Batty JR BYU 3:55.79D
3 Chris O'Hare SO Tulsa 3:56.48D
4 Dumisane Hlaselo JR Florida 3:56.84D
5 Erik van Ingen SR Binghamton 3:57.11D
6 Cory Leslie JR Ohio State 3:57.97D
7 Matthew Gibney SR Villanova 3:58.12D
8 Riley Masters JR Maine 3:58.17D
9 Rich Peters FR Boston U. 3:58.26D
10 Michael Hammond JR Virginia Tech 3:58.41D
11 Ryan Foster SR Penn State 3:58.49D
12 James Cameron SO Washington 3:58.51D
13 Julian Matthews JR Providence 3:58.57D
14 Jeff Thode SO Iowa 3:58.72D
15 Duncan Phillips JR Arkansas 3:58.82D
16 Mac Fleet SO Oregon 3:59.03D

Event 6 Men 3000 Meter Run
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Name Year School Seed
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1 Andrew Bayer SO Indiana 7:48.35D
2 Matthew Centrowitz JR Oregon 7:50.59D
3 Ryan Hill SO NC State 7:50.78D
4 Sam Chelanga SR Liberty 7:50.92D
5 Leonard Korir JR Iona 7:51.40D
6 Diego Estrada SO Northern Arizona 7:52.18D
7 Elliott Heath JR Stanford 7:52.27D
8 Maverick Darling SO Wisconsin 7:52.31D
9 Ben Blankenship JR Minnesota 7:52.52D
10 Riley Masters JR Maine 7:53.11D
11 Colton Tully-Doyle SR Washington 7:53.13D
12 David McCarthy JR Providence 7:53.33D
13 Andrew Poore JR Indiana 7:53.81D
14 German Fernandez JR Oklahoma State 7:53.82D
15 Reed Connor SO Wisconsin 7:53.88D
16 Justin Tyner SR Air Force 7:53.91D
17 Ross Millington SO New Mexico 7:54.08D
18 Lawi Lalang FR Arizona 7:54.32D
19 Ben Hubers JR Indiana 7:54.37D
20 Thomas Farrell SO Oklahoma State 7:54.42D

Event 7 Men 5000 Meter Run
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Name Year School Seed
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1 Sam Chelanga SR Liberty 13:37.55D
2 Elliott Heath JR Stanford 13:37.77D
3 Leonard Korir JR Iona 13:40.62D
4 Stephen Sambu JR Arizona 13:41.57D
5 Diego Estrada SO Northern Arizona 13:42.64D
6 Maverick Darling SO Wisconsin 13:43.04D
7 Mohammed Ahmed SO Wisconsin 13:43.96D
8 Ben Hubers JR Indiana 13:44.93D
9 George Alex JR Oklahoma 13:45.32D
10 Andrew Poore JR Indiana 13:45.33D
11 Luke Puskedra JR Oregon 13:46.70D
12 Kevin Schwab SO Oklahoma 13:47.59D
13 Miles Unterreiner JR Stanford 13:48.13D
14 Mohamud Ige SR Arizona 13:48.15D
15 David Adams SR Nebraska 13:48.78D
16 Chris Derrick SO Stanford 13:49.05D

Event 10 Men Distance Medley
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School Seed
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1 Oregon 9:26.78D
1) Mac Fleet SO 2) Mike Berry FR
3) Elijah Greer SO 4) Matthew Centrowitz JR
2 Arizona 9:28.87D
1) Abdi Hassan JR 2) Sean Delfani FR
3) James Eichberger SO 4) Lawi Lalang FR
3 BYU 9:29.13D
1) Brian Weirich SR 2) Chris Carter JR
3) Justin Hedin JR 4) Miles Batty JR
4 Stanford 9:29.22D
1) John Sullivan SR 2) Amaechi Morton JR
3) Dylan Ferris JR 4) Elliott Heath JR
5 Indiana 9:30.78D
1) Daniel Stockberger JR 2) Chris Vaughn JR
3) Joseph Holahan SO 4) Andrew Bayer SO
6 Arkansas 9:30.85D
1) Bryan Cantero FR 2) Chris Bilbrew SR
3) Chuol Dey SO 4) Duncan Phillips JR
7 Minnesota 9:31.78D
1) Nick Hutton SO 2) Harun Abda SO
3) Travis Burkstrand SO 4) Ben Blankenship JR
8 New Mexico 9:31.95D
1) Gabe Aragon FR 2) David Bishop SR
3) Sam Evans SO 4) Richard York SO
9 Notre Dame 9:31.99D
1) Johnathan Shawel JR 2) Patrick Feeney FR
3) Jack Howard SR 4) Jeremy Rae SO
10 Air Force 9:32.06D
1) Tyler Stanley SR 2) Anthony Delgado SO
3) Nick White JR 4) Justin Tyner SR
11 Villanova 9:33.50D
1) Matthew Gibney SR 2) Carlton Bowers SO
3) Jason Apwah SR 4) Mathew Mildenhall SO
12 Alabama 9:33.77D
1) Joel Rop SR 2) Kirani James SO
3) Fred Samoei SR 4) Emmanuel Bor SR

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Event 20 Women 800 Meter Run Prelims =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Lea Wallace SR Sacramento St 2:03.07D
2 Rebecca Addison SO Michigan 2:03.79D
3 Katie Palmer JR BYU 2:04.02D
4 Christina Rodgers SR Arizona 2:04.04D
5 Jillian Smith SO Michigan 2:04.20D
6 Sofie Persson JR Mississippi 2:04.51D
7 Charlene Lipsey SO LSU 2:04.55D
8 Laura Roesler FR Oregon 2:04.93D
9 Lacey Bleazard JR BYU 2:04.95D
10 Chanelle Price JR Tennessee 2:05.10D
11 Bethany Praska SR Iowa 2:05.36D
12 Stephanie Brown SO Arkansas 2:05.46D
13 Brittany Hall SR LSU 2:05.50D
14 Heather Wilson JR Connecticut 2:05.68D
15 Renisha Robinson SR Sacramento St 2:05.71D
16 Purity Biwott SR Texas Tech 2:05.80D

Event 21 Women 1 Mile Run Prelims =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Jordan Hasay SO Oregon 4:34.75D
2 Kate Van Buskirk SR Duke 4:35.83D
3 Anne Kesselring SO Oregon 4:36.32D
4 Cory McGee FR Florida 4:36.53D
5 Caroline King JR Boston College 4:37.04D
6 Emma Coburn JR Colorado 4:37.44D
7 Zoe Buckman SR Oregon 4:37.84D
8 Caitlin Lane JR Penn State 4:38.37D
9 Keri Bland SR West Virginia 4:38.56D
10 Amanda Winslow SO Florida State 4:38.69D
11 Danielle Tauro SR Michigan 4:38.77D
12 Natalja Piliusina FR Oklahoma State 4:39.39D
13 Kate Grace SR Yale 4:39.52D
14 Ashley Verplank SO North Carolina 4:39.76D
15 McKenzie Melander JR Iowa 4:39.78D
16 Katrina Drennen SR Montana 4:39.82D

Event 22 Women 3000 Meter Run =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Lucy Van Dalen JR Stony Brook 8:56.77D
2 Sheila Reid SR Villanova 8:56.92D
3 Jackie Areson SR Tennessee 9:01.91D
4 Jordan Hasay SO Oregon 9:05.42D
5 Alex Kosinski JR Oregon 9:08.60D
6 Katie Flood FR Washington 9:09.85D
7 Bogdana Mimic SO Villanova 9:10.64D
8 Megan Goethals FR Washington 9:11.56D
9 Anna Nosenko SR Wake Forest 9:12.02D
10 Tara Erdmann JR Loyola Marymount 9:12.25D
11 Hannah Davidson SO Providence 9:12.53D
12 Stephanie Marcy SR Stanford 9:13.00D
13 Pasca Cheruiyot SR Florida State 9:13.51D
14 Shelby Greany SO Providence 9:14.06D
15 Jessica O'Connell JR West Virginia 9:14.12D
16 Ashley Higginson SR Princeton 9:14.47D
17 Liz Costello SR Tennessee 9:15.39D

Event 23 Women 5000 Meter Run =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Jackie Areson SR Tennessee 15:39.81D
2 Alex Kosinski JR Oregon 15:44.60D
3 Liz Costello SR Tennessee 15:48.50D
4 Betsy Saina SO Iowa State 15:50.74D
5 Aliphine Tuliamuk SO Wichita State 15:53.74D
6 Natalie Gray JR New Mexico 15:54.29D
7 Holly Van Dalen JR Stony Brook 15:56.82D
8 Mia Behm JR Texas 15:58.34D
9 Risper Kimaiyo JR UTEP 15:59.56D
10 Tonya Nero SR Wichita State 16:01.69D
11 Ruth Senior JR New Mexico 16:02.38D
12 Ari Fisher JR Toledo 16:04.56D
13 Holly Knight JR Auburn 16:04.86D
14 Pasca Cheruiyot SR Florida State 16:05.36D
15 Corey Conner JR Maine 16:06.18D
16 Katie Matthews JR Boston U. 16:06.38D
17 Anna Nosenko SR Wake Forest 16:09.64D

Event 26 Women Distance Medley
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School Seed
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1 Villanova 10:56.12D
1) Emily Lipari FR 2) Christie Verdier JR
3) Ariann Neutts SO 4) Sheila Reid SR
2 Virginia 10:59.33D
1) Morgane Gay SO 2) Ayla Smith SR
3) Lyndsay Harper SR 4) Stephanie Garcia SR
3 Connecticut 10:59.99D
1) Leah Andrianos SR 2) Celina Emerson FR
3) Brigitte Mania SO 4) Heather Wilson JR
4 Georgetown 11:00.67D
1) Rachel Schneider SO 2) Deidra Sanders SR
3) Chelsea Cox FR 4) Katie McCafferty SO
5 Oregon 11:02.15D
1) Jordan Hasay SO 2) Chizoba Okodogbe FR
3) Laura Roesler FR 4) Alex Kosinski JR
6 Arkansas 11:02.45D
1) Kristen Gillespie JR 2) Shelise Williams SR
3) Regina George SO 4) Stephanie Brown SO
7 BYU 11:03.70D
1) Nicole Clark SR 2) Natalie Stewart JR
3) Lacey Bleazard JR 4) Katie Palmer JR
8 Michigan 11:04.26D
1) Danielle Tauro SR 2) Alisha Cole SR
3) Rebecca Addison SO 4) Jillian Smith SO
9 Tennessee 11:05.37D
1) Brittany Sheffey JR 2) Ashley Harris JR
3) Chanelle Price JR 4) Jackie Areson SR
10 Duke 11:06.85D
1) Rebecca Craigie FR 2) Devotia Moore SR
3) Cydney Ross JR 4) Kate Van Buskirk SR
11 Texas Tech 11:07.18D
1) Caroline Jepleting JR 2) Meshawn Graham JR
3) Purity Biwott SR 4) Caroline Karunde SR
12 Oklahoma State 11:09.67D
1) Natalja Piliusina FR 2) Mihaela Bobos FR
3) Caileigh Glenn FR 4) Mihaela Susa SR

[yoshi]

Fleet made it in the mile. Derrick got into the 5k. I'll be pulling for Derrick. He's had 2 weeks since his 13:49, maybe he can get top 3 in a slow race.

I'm curious to see if they put all 20 3k guys on the track at the same time or if they split it up like they did the 18 team DMR in 09. It will be tough to split into a "fast" and "slow" heat because less than 4 seconds separate 2nd and 20th.

Predictions:
60m: Demps
200m: McQuay
400m: James
800m: Loxsom (Samoei and Greer close for 2nd and 3rd) The 800m final will be the 3rd race of the weekend for all 3.
Mile: Toss-up (Batty, Hlaselo--he's even older than Batty, Masters, Foster)
3k: Centro. I might take Heath if he were fresh and had a better history at nationals. If Chelanga goes from the gun and runs a 3k commensurate with his 10k, I don't think anyone can hang with him. That rarely happens at nationals, though.
5k: Same deal as 3k. Chelanga's chances are diminished because it will be a moderate pace early on. This is a tossup between most of the guys with top 10 marks.
60h: Riley. I wish Nugent would win, but he's been a bit banged up.
4x4: Baylor. They will have the freshest team, except for maybe LSU, and, more importantly, they are the kings of the 4x4.
DMR: Oregon. They'll split about 2:56-7, 47, 1:48 then Centro will do whatever it takes to win. He, Lalang, and Bayer will be the only fresh anchors of the top 6 teams. Lalang could shake things up, but I think Centro is a pretty savvy racer.
Field: I'm too ignorant about most events to comment intelligently. Henning will win the WT, Finley will win the shot, Florida will rack up a ton of points in the TJ.

Florida should win this meet by a mile.

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Things I am immediately interested in:
- Heath 3km/5km/DMR? ... wish we could see who else they have declared for the relay
- Will Fleet make the mile final? The more I think about it, I'm not even sure why he accepted the spot as Oregon won't be in it for the team title, and the mile prelim/DMR is notoriously tricky - especially for a guy who is coming back from a long break. Centrowitz is the cream of the anchors but there are some other pretty damn good guys you don't want to give a couple seconds to.
- M3km should be a dandy. I think McCarthy is coming along nicely and, as he's only running the one event, is in a position to do something.
- W3km is also interesting, but as Van Dalen is the only one who won't be tired she doesn't really have an excuse for not winning.
- Villanova v. Oregon would be a hell of a DMR if they were both fresh, but as Oregon's entire team will be doubling back and Villanova will be fresh it should be pretty clear cut. No way Oregon runs the posted lineup as Kesselring is theoretically a bit better than Hasay over 1200, and Hasay is a couple seconds better than Kosinski in a mile even before you take into account Kosinski coming right off the 5km. I don't know if that's supposed to be mind games or something, but hopefully nobody is dumb enough to buy it.

[orthostice]

Fleet made it in the mile. Derrick got into the 5k. I'll be pulling for Derrick. He's had 2 weeks since his 13:49, maybe he can get top 3 in a slow race.


I think Derrick actually has a better shot off a relatively quick pace (i.e. <13:40). His strength is obviously his strength and hopefully that's what they've been working on over the last couple weeks; it will come around relatively quickly for him. His footspeed is pretty bad even when he's at his best, and he got outkicked by a bunch of nerds at Husky. If it's really slow on Friday, he's going to get lit up.

[king99]

Ortho, wow it is sick we are thinking alike

I thought exactly the same thing

Derrick would not fair as well right now in my mind off a donkey like pace and blazing finish, has not had any underside races, nor can he be that sharp, altho he is tough, not sure he would beat even his own team mate Heath in banger's race. Not now.

I am a little surprised that Heath is declared for 3/5 and probably would be their best bet on DMR, no? I would be surprised if he goes DMR as he is now declared for 3 and 5? he is good but ain;t no Rupp.

Another great point you make which I kind of already had mentioned, the Mile/DMR double is especially tough and then to come back next day to run mile final?

You have to go so anaerobic in mile pre lims and then jack it back up for DMR?

Then go to the well again next day? I would not have any athlete thinking he had to go twice to the max on same day anyway, unless he was Rupp who really manned up big time.

[king99]

Derrick has run 3:42.x which is better tham some of these guys though, altho has not done anything like that lately.

[therunner12]

4x4

Us, on our home track.

Come at me.

[king99]

Ortho, something I also thought you might get a kick out of since it is one of my pet peeves I think as well, as we agree on absurd conversions, I think?.

One of the marks in the DMR for them no longer needed to be used was NM 9:32.x at alt. What do you think that conversion "down" was from? I think it is a bit much? I think they gave them almost 8-9?

That is hysterical, plus I heard they moved the track UP 10 feet to get the extra? :D

[Equinox2100]

I'm excited to see the 5k. After that monster kick by Heath, it'll be interesting to see if he can hang on to Sammy C. as their completely opposite tactics (supposedly) arise.

If he runs like that again, no one will touch him over the last lap or 2, but if chalenga drops it with a mile to go....who knows.

Also the 800 and mile will be fun, as the 8 is always a clusterf*ck indoors, and the mile is soooo tight as well

edit: also the 400, do we still have the #1 & 2 in the world so far at this meet? It was that was as of SEC's but idk now

[KevinM]

Team scoring, just off the form chart, with zero editorializing.
1) Florida 75 (!)
2) LSU 39
3) Arkansas 35
4) Oregon 28
5) BYU 27
6) TAMU 26
7) FSU/Indiana 21
9) Texas 20.5
10) Arizona/Kansas State 17

Thanks to deke for pointing out I had Oregon and Ohio State tabulated incorrectly.

[kingcoe]

James, McQuay and Lawrence currently sit 1st, 2nd and 4th after Dijone won the Euro Indoors last weekend. Hopefully Lawrence can drop his time a bit. James and McQuay who knows?

The 16 accepted entries:

1 Kirani James SO Alabama 44.80D
2 Tony McQuay SO Florida 45.21D
3 Torrin Lawrence JR Georgia 45.82D
4 Tabarie Henry SR Texas A&M 45.92D
5 Neill Braddy FR Arkansas 46.03D
6 Ben Skidmore JR Arkansas 46.04D
7 Caleb Williams SO LSU 46.08D
8 Thomas Murdaugh JR Ohio State 46.21D
9 Amaechi Morton JR Stanford 46.23D
10 Demetrius Pinder SR Texas A&M 46.24D
11 Brady Gehret FR Penn State 46.25D
12 Marcus Boyd SR Baylor 46.29D
13 Riker Hylton JR LSU 46.30D
14 Bryan Miller SR Texas A&M 46.34D
15 Charles Cox SR North Carolina 46.36D
16 Gil Roberts SR Texas Tech 46.39D

[yoshi]

Team scoring, just off the form chart, with zero editorializing.
1) Florida 75 (!)
2) LSU 39
3) Arkansas 35
4) BYU 27
5) TAMU 26
6) FSU/Indiana 21
8) Texas 20.5
9) Ohio State 19
10) Oregon 18

Like I said--it's Florida's to lose.

Based on the form chart, 9 of A&M's 26 points come from the 800m. Probably the largest percentage of points his team has ever been projected to score from the mid-distances on up.

therunner12, is Alleyne coaching Preble and Roberts? Also, what happened to y'all's jumpers this year?

[the stogs]

lenny

[BlackIrish]

Carrington, Preble, and Roberts have absolutely exploded this indoor season...

[TrackCoach]

Event 20 Women 800 Meter Run Prelims =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Lea Wallace SR Sacramento St 2:03.07D
2 Rebecca Addison SO Michigan 2:03.79D
3 Katie Palmer JR BYU 2:04.02D
4 Christina Rodgers SR Arizona 2:04.04D
5 Jillian Smith SO Michigan 2:04.20D
6 Sofie Persson JR Mississippi 2:04.51D
7 Charlene Lipsey SO LSU 2:04.55D
8 Laura Roesler FR Oregon 2:04.93D
9 Lacey Bleazard JR BYU 2:04.95D
10 Chanelle Price JR Tennessee 2:05.10D
11 Bethany Praska SR Iowa 2:05.36D
12 Stephanie Brown SO Arkansas 2:05.46D
13 Brittany Hall SR LSU 2:05.50D
14 Heather Wilson JR Connecticut 2:05.68D
15 Renisha Robinson SR Sacramento St 2:05.71D
16 Purity Biwott SR Texas Tech 2:05.80D

Event 21 Women 1 Mile Run Prelims =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Jordan Hasay SO Oregon 4:34.75D
2 Kate Van Buskirk SR Duke 4:35.83D
3 Anne Kesselring SO Oregon 4:36.32D
4 Cory McGee FR Florida 4:36.53D
5 Caroline King JR Boston College 4:37.04D
6 Emma Coburn JR Colorado 4:37.44D
7 Zoe Buckman SR Oregon 4:37.84D
8 Caitlin Lane JR Penn State 4:38.37D
9 Keri Bland SR West Virginia 4:38.56D
10 Amanda Winslow SO Florida State 4:38.69D
11 Danielle Tauro SR Michigan 4:38.77D
12 Natalja Piliusina FR Oklahoma State 4:39.39D
13 Kate Grace SR Yale 4:39.52D
14 Ashley Verplank SO North Carolina 4:39.76D
15 McKenzie Melander JR Iowa 4:39.78D
16 Katrina Drennen SR Montana 4:39.82D

Event 22 Women 3000 Meter Run =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Lucy Van Dalen JR Stony Brook 8:56.77D
2 Sheila Reid SR Villanova 8:56.92D
3 Jackie Areson SR Tennessee 9:01.91D
4 Jordan Hasay SO Oregon 9:05.42D
5 Alex Kosinski JR Oregon 9:08.60D
6 Katie Flood FR Washington 9:09.85D
7 Bogdana Mimic SO Villanova 9:10.64D
8 Megan Goethals FR Washington 9:11.56D
9 Anna Nosenko SR Wake Forest 9:12.02D
10 Tara Erdmann JR Loyola Marymount 9:12.25D
11 Hannah Davidson SO Providence 9:12.53D
12 Stephanie Marcy SR Stanford 9:13.00D
13 Pasca Cheruiyot SR Florida State 9:13.51D
14 Shelby Greany SO Providence 9:14.06D
15 Jessica O'Connell JR West Virginia 9:14.12D
16 Ashley Higginson SR Princeton 9:14.47D
17 Liz Costello SR Tennessee 9:15.39D

Event 23 Women 5000 Meter Run =============================================================================== Name Year School Seed =============================================================================== 1 Jackie Areson SR Tennessee 15:39.81D
2 Alex Kosinski JR Oregon 15:44.60D
3 Liz Costello SR Tennessee 15:48.50D
4 Betsy Saina SO Iowa State 15:50.74D
5 Aliphine Tuliamuk SO Wichita State 15:53.74D
6 Natalie Gray JR New Mexico 15:54.29D
7 Holly Van Dalen JR Stony Brook 15:56.82D
8 Mia Behm JR Texas 15:58.34D
9 Risper Kimaiyo JR UTEP 15:59.56D
10 Tonya Nero SR Wichita State 16:01.69D
11 Ruth Senior JR New Mexico 16:02.38D
12 Ari Fisher JR Toledo 16:04.56D
13 Holly Knight JR Auburn 16:04.86D
14 Pasca Cheruiyot SR Florida State 16:05.36D
15 Corey Conner JR Maine 16:06.18D
16 Katie Matthews JR Boston U. 16:06.38D
17 Anna Nosenko SR Wake Forest 16:09.64D

Event 26 Women Distance Medley
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School Seed
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1 Villanova 10:56.12D
1) Emily Lipari FR 2) Christie Verdier JR
3) Ariann Neutts SO 4) Sheila Reid SR
2 Virginia 10:59.33D
1) Morgane Gay SO 2) Ayla Smith SR
3) Lyndsay Harper SR 4) Stephanie Garcia SR
3 Connecticut 10:59.99D
1) Leah Andrianos SR 2) Celina Emerson FR
3) Brigitte Mania SO 4) Heather Wilson JR
4 Georgetown 11:00.67D
1) Rachel Schneider SO 2) Deidra Sanders SR
3) Chelsea Cox FR 4) Katie McCafferty SO
5 Oregon 11:02.15D
1) Jordan Hasay SO 2) Chizoba Okodogbe FR
3) Laura Roesler FR 4) Alex Kosinski JR
6 Arkansas 11:02.45D
1) Kristen Gillespie JR 2) Shelise Williams SR
3) Regina George SO 4) Stephanie Brown SO
7 BYU 11:03.70D
1) Nicole Clark SR 2) Natalie Stewart JR
3) Lacey Bleazard JR 4) Katie Palmer JR
8 Michigan 11:04.26D
1) Danielle Tauro SR 2) Alisha Cole SR
3) Rebecca Addison SO 4) Jillian Smith SO
9 Tennessee 11:05.37D
1) Brittany Sheffey JR 2) Ashley Harris JR
3) Chanelle Price JR 4) Jackie Areson SR
10 Duke 11:06.85D
1) Rebecca Craigie FR 2) Devotia Moore SR
3) Cydney Ross JR 4) Kate Van Buskirk SR
11 Texas Tech 11:07.18D
1) Caroline Jepleting JR 2) Meshawn Graham JR
3) Purity Biwott SR 4) Caroline Karunde SR
12 Oklahoma State 11:09.67D
1) Natalja Piliusina FR 2) Mihaela Bobos FR
3) Caileigh Glenn FR 4) Mihaela Susa SR


With the MD talent TN, Mich and Oregon has, I am surprised they have not run sub-11. Oregon for example has a 4:35 miler, 2:04 800m and a 53x 400; TN, Mich has similar talent.

[orthostice]

I am a little surprised that Heath is declared for 3/5 and probably would be their best bet on DMR, no? I would be surprised if he goes DMR as he is now declared for 3 and 5? he is good but ain;t no Rupp.

Another great point you make which I kind of already had mentioned, the Mile/DMR double is especially tough and then to come back next day to run mile final?


I reckon for Stanford's DMR, they'll have Berberick on the anchor as he's not running anything else. To do otherwise would be pretty dumb as Stanford isn't going to win the DMR - even with Heath, they're not going to win the meet or come anywhere close, and having Heath run would just ruin their DMR's chance of doing anything and ruin Heath's chance of doing anything in the 3km. Does listing him on the relay help Derrick get in as Heath is already in the meet?

Re: the mile prelim/DMR double
It can indeed be a bitch, especially if you are in the first heat or something and come through in 2:08. Smart people will just go to the front and run 30s to avoid having to close in 1:26 or something stupid and wrecking the legs for the DMR four hours later.

Derrick has run 3:42.x which is better tham some of these guys though, altho has not done anything like that lately.

And you can be sure it was 59.9-59.9-59.9-44.9 or something along those lines.

Ortho, something I also thought you might get a kick out of since it is one of my pet peeves I think as well, as we agree on absurd conversions, I think?.

One of the marks in the DMR for them no longer needed to be used was NM 9:32.x at alt. What do you think that conversion "down" was from? I think it is a bit much? I think they gave them almost 8-9?

That is hysterical, plus I heard they moved the track UP 10 feet to get the extra? :D

Hadn't heard that, but it is hilarious. 8-9 sec doesn't surprise me and fits pretty well with the theme of absolutely stupid conversions. If you figure the 400 guy actually gets a bit of help at altitude it's, what, 3 sec for the 1200, 2 for the 800, and 4-5 for the mile? Considering I've heard of zero of their guys, it should be fun watching the carnage Friday.

[king99]

I never understood despite being told guys do not want to lead, why guys just do not go and run their even 4:00-4:01. It gets you to finals, EVERY year, instead of taking the wait and sprint way, where even the best could get pipped at the line in photos

[KevinM]

Does listing him on the relay help Derrick get in as Heath is already in the meet?


It certainly didn't hurt, but the reason they listed Heath is because you have to declare the team that ran the Q time. Once in, you are able to make substitutions (either with guys you bring on your own dime, or with guys already in the meet in other events).

[xcrunna]

I never understood despite being told guys do not want to lead, why guys just do not go and run their even 4:00-4:01. It gets you to finals, EVERY year, instead of taking the wait and sprint way, where even the best could get pipped at the line in photos
Well, there's always the fear, rational or not, of being a sitting duck and towing the whole heat along only to have them roll by you at the end. It's true that if you are in the "fast" heat, 6 out of 8 runners can make it. That's pretty good odds, I'll cede you that. Bear in mind that a lot of these guys got their national berths in races where they followed and did little work at the front. Also, it's not like a ton of high-quality guys have been cut down in the prelims the last few years, so I don't know if the risk is as big as you think. For a marginal qualifier, doing all the work at the front for a sub 4 or 4:01 and then finishing strongly might not be within their abilities. I don't know enough from experience if an even sub 4 race taxes you more than 2:07-1:56 one, so I can't be sure whether it makes more or less sense for the top guys in the field. Also (I'll be a smartass here), if you get pipped on a photo and lose by less than .01 for a last spot you get in anyway(see Centrowitz a couple years back).

Much as I love the DMR, it does really muddle up any predictions or discussion of events after the 5,000. Heath and Chelanga should be a good battle in that 5,000, but I'd tend to favor Heath against Chelanga who seems to struggle in races where he can't get away. 3000 looks like a good spot for Centrowitz against a lot of guys doubling back from the 5. I wouldn't overlook Ben Blankenship though as he's been running very well, nor Ryan Hill and David McCarthy(as ortho pointed out) who both will be fresh. The mile is wide open. I really like Van Ingen at least making the podium in a surprise.

[kingcoe]

I'd be psyched to see Centrowitz win the 3000. His after his 3:36 two years ago he got cut down by injury and last year was, of course, the year of Andrew (with Acosta finishing like a house on fire and grabbing second I know) but it just didn't seem Centrowitz had it all together last year.

Hopefully, he'll put it all together in '11 building towards 2012. I don't see him going to Korea this summer but hopefully he'll run USATF, make the final and get in the mix preparing for the Olympic year.

He's still young and I think as he grows in strength he could really make some leaps forward. He's poised, seems to position well, isn't afraid to be the first guy to move and has good finishing speed. Tactically, he's savvy - give him a few more years to grow into and who knows?

[xcrunna]

I'd be psyched to see Centrowitz win the 3000. His after his 3:36 two years ago he got cut down by injury and last year was, of course, the year of Andrew (with Acosta finishing like a house on fire and grabbing second I know) but it just didn't seem Centrowitz had it all together last year.
He did make the finals and get 5'th at USATF last year(first collegiate and just .01 behind David Torrence). His performances were pretty much all very good before that, so I think he did have it all together- he just didn't get into the right race to run a low 3:36 like AJ did, for example.

[kingcoe]

He did make the finals and get 5'th at USATF last year(first collegiate and just .01 behind David Torrence). His performances were pretty much all very good before that, so I think he did have it all together- he just didn't get into the right race to run a low 3:36 like AJ did, for example.

I agree he did really well last year and I remember he ran @ USAs. For some reason it just looked like he was missing a little of the spark he had the year before. I don't remember if he had some niggling injury issues last year or not. Hey, I could be wrong, too - goodness knows it happens often enough. Either way, I know pretty everyone considers him a talent and it should be awesome to watch how indoors ends up and outdoor unfolds.

[xcrunna]

I agree he did really well last year and I remember he ran @ USAs. For some reason it just looked like he was missing a little of the spark he had the year before. I don't remember if he had some niggling injury issues last year or not. Hey, I could be wrong, too - goodness knows it happens often enough. Either way, I know pretty everyone considers him a talent and it should be awesome to watch how indoors ends up and outdoor unfolds.
Fair enough. I think that 3000 race is pretty intriguing. I could see any of six or seven guys taking it, which should provide for some nice viewing. Unfortunately this not being a part of the Visa Champ. Series, we're probably not going to have Tim Hutchings as a part of the coverage.

[orthostice]

Unfortunately this not being a part of the Visa Champ. Series, we're probably not going to have Tim Hutchings as a part of the coverage.

Mute it, and talk to yourself. It would be an improvement.

[xcrunna]

Mute it, and talk to yourself. It would be an improvement.
But then I would be in the dark about all of the competitors' leg turnover.

[BisonHurdler]

But then I would be in the dark about all of the competitors' leg turnover.


It isn't a true NCAA broadcast without Carol Lewis screaming into the microphone like a hearing-impaired geriatric while the network fawns over/gives copious airtime to the 6th place finisher in the men's 3k (who happens to belong to a team in contention for the team title) and ignoring the actual race between the top finishers.

[MPLS]

Where's Charles Jock been this winter?

[amw2829]

It isn't a true NCAA broadcast without Carol Lewis screaming into the microphone like a hearing-impaired geriatric while the network fawns over/gives copious airtime to the 6th place finisher in the men's 3k (who happens to belong to a team in contention for the team title) and ignoring the actual race between the top finishers.

That's cause tracks all about the team. In cross country all I want to see is Sam Chelenga layin' the smackdown on the rest of the field regardless of how far ahead he is. I could care less about team scores. After the first place finisher crosses the line, all cameras should be on him, and botched interviews should commence.

[honkforcookies]

Where's Charles Jock been this winter?

Opened up his outdoor season with a 4:03 1,500m (11th in his heat) at Ben Brown this past Saturday.

[BisonHurdler]

That's cause tracks all about the team.



No, it's really not. In fact, track is one of the least team-oriented "team sports." It's a shame when the focus is shifted away from event winners and towards all the also-rans.

You [and CBS] have it backwards . . . so much so that I'm not sure if you're trolling me or what. Cross country is much more so a "team sport" than indoor/outdoor track and field.

Unless your name is BRIAN THERIOT.

[Otis Moulmein]

So is Fleet going to run the mile? Or do we not know? I don't see him scoring, so I don't know why he would.

[xcrunna]

So is Fleet going to run the mile? Or do we not know? I don't see him scoring, so I don't know why he would.
I have to believe there's some type of honest effort rule, so that you can't DNS in a team-scored meet (and theoretically keep a rival out of the meet) and then compete later individually. Whether that is enforced only for future individual events or he'd be out of the DMR, too, I don't know. Someone here probably knows. I'd have to assume that it applies to relays too, so he has to at least start the mile if he hopes to be in the DMR.
Either way, it wouldn't have made any sense for him to declare if he didn't intend to race the mile. Oregon is not in the team hunt, and he had a spot in the meet as it was.
EDIT: Thanks KevinM

[KevinM]

He declared for the event - he's running it, or he's running nothing (i.e., if he scratches the mile prelim, the DMR is out of the question).

[Equinox2100]

No, it's really not. In fact, track is one of the least team-oriented "team sports." It's a shame when the focus is shifted away from event winners and towards all the also-rans.

You [and CBS] have it backwards . . . so much so that I'm not sure if you're trolling me or what. Cross country is much more so a "team sport" than indoor/outdoor track and field.

Unless your name is BRIAN THERIOT.

....whoosh.

he was making fun of the commentators

[amw2829]

....whoosh.

he was making fun of the commentators

Maybe he's trolling you...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3852267763_47f17d18cb.jpg

[therunner12]

http://www.flotrack.org/article/5556-NCAA-Indoors-Mens-Distance-Predictions

If Preble wins the 800 I'm going to **** myself.

I used to beat him in the 800 in age group races.

[SprintsFTW19]

Masters ftw.

[xcrunna]

http://www.flotrack.org/article/5556-NCAA-Indoors-Mens-Distance-Predictions

If Preble wins the 800 I'm going to **** myself.

I used to beat him in the 800 in age group races.
The 800 is a really tough event to pick, so I think he was kind of grasping at straws to pick that one. Seems weird that he's narrowed it down to the top two seeds (Greer and Preble) when there are another 5 within two tenths of Preble including many who qualified a month ago and guys with 1:45 or 1:46 outdoor marks(Primm, Loxsom).
For the mile, I can't fault anyone for taking Batty considering the time advantage he has on the field. It's funny that he touts Batty's "experience" as a selling point because that would be something that I might hold against him. This is his first national meet, so his class year and age might be irrelevant at this stage. I like Van Ingen, Casey, and Gibney to be in that top 3 or 4.

[yoshi]

4x4: Baylor. They will have the freshest team, except for maybe LSU, and, more importantly, they are the kings of the 4x4.


Scratch that. They didn't get into the fast heat. My prediction is now A&M.

[Average Runner]

Predictions for the women's mile? Pretty stacked field, McGee is on fire lately.


And really hot. Had to be said.

[HJBeast]

Predictions:

400: Kirani James (sub 45)
800: Cas Loxsom (sub 1:47)
HJ: Erik Kynard (2.30+)

[usnspecialist]

Predictions for the women's mile? Pretty stacked field, McGee is on fire lately.


And really hot. Had to be said.

no, it really didnt.

[Super Mario]

http://blogs.themiamihurricane.com/media/blogs/UmFootball/haters-gonna-hate-panda_medium.jpg

[nosoup4u]

no, it really didnt.

i dunno, i think it kinda did

[Crystazul]

i dunno, i think it kinda did

http://www.kellimarshall.net/seinfeld/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/soup.jpg

On another note, I am looking forward to the 5K. Does anyone know if the live feed on NCAA.com will feature the running events. It seemed like they said they wouldn't and we will have to wait for the reply to be up on ESPN3.com.

[yoshi]

On another note, I am looking forward to the 5K. Does anyone know if the live feed on NCAA.com will feature the running events. It seemed like they said they wouldn't and we will have to wait for the reply to be up on ESPN3.com.

I think the whole meet will be live on the internet. The prelims and stuff will be on aggieathletics.com and the main events will be on ESPN3.com. The 5k should be shown live on ESPN3. If you have a .edu email account you can get ESPN3 for free.

[king99]

anywhere else to see this, my hickish Cable Company does not have ESPN3

[inyoface]

Go online and watch it on ESPN

[king99]

My Cable Company and therefore my internet provider does not carry ESPN 3

[inyoface]

My Cable Company and therefore my internet provider does not carry ESPN 3
Wait, what?

http://espn.go.com/espn3/

That link doesn't do anything, then?

[king99]

steers me to a list of providers who DO have it in my area, unfortunately I have the doneky Cable Company..NOT listed

Cannot get it, this sucks

[inyoface]

steers me to a list of providers who DO have it in my area, unfortunately I have the doneky Cable Company..NOT listed

Cannot get it, this sucks
Sorry to hear it. I'll do a little searching on Justin.tv and see if someone is streaming it on their channel.

[inyoface]

King, keep checking back every little while because I'm going to set up a camera on my mom's computer to stream it for you.

[inyoface]

http://tinychat.com/indoortrack

It's very laggy but there is nothing I can do to fix it, unfortunately.

[inyoface]

Yeah, it basically lagged out. I tried, man.

[king99]

Thanks, but I get a warning prohibiting me anyway, it is impossible, sorry

[kingcoe]

Casey and Fleet fail to make the mile final . . .

McQuay, Pinder, Torrence, James, Henry, Gehret, Cox and Amaechi Morton through to the 400 final. Morton running 46.45 behind James - indoor/ outdoor PR for him - hopefully a good sign for his hurdling later.

[inyoface]

Why was Adams not dq'd following the first false start?

[Evilution]

Did he just say Robby 'Williams'?

[K-nat213]

loxsom didnt make the final....again :(

[king99]

Cannot run in heat 2 of 2 knowing what the mark is from heat one and let a race go in 1:49.x there can only be place Q'ers

I did not see either race, by Fleet 4:08 or Greer 1:54.x

were there circumstances, or do these fall into Honest effort(or lack thereof) rule type stuff?

[orthostice]

Casey and Fleet fail to make the mile final . . .


Could've seen this one coming.
Even entering him in the mile was a huge tactical miscalculation. Oregon's DMR could potentially set the CR ... or you roll the dice on a guy who barely got into the meet and the DMR could end up 3rd. Not to mention this guy you're overracing is just coming back from a broken foot that required surgery. The best interests of the athletes are definitely winning out over trying to squeeze that trophy bonus, eh Vinny?

I did not see either race, by Fleet 4:08 or Greer 1:54.x

were there circumstances, or do these fall into Honest effort(or lack thereof) rule type stuff?

Greer ran his last 200 in about 32 seconds, so it's debatable.
Fleet got dropped with a couple laps to go, but didn't really shut it down, just kind of kept running and didn't kick.
Why even enter the meet, if you're going to do stupid bullsh*t like this?

[KevinM]

Cannot run in heat 2 of 2 knowing what the mark is from heat one and let a race go in 1:49.x there can only be place Q'ers

I did not see either race, by Fleet 4:08 or Greer 1:54.x

were there circumstances, or do these fall into Honest effort(or lack thereof) rule type stuff?


The DMR suddenly seems a whole lot more interesting...

[Ecliptica]

Mookie Salaam (Oklahoma) runs 20.39 in the prelims of the 200!!


EDIT: McQuay probably out for the meet, injured in the prelims of the 200.

[eh000]

Mookie Salaam (Oklahoma) runs 20.39 in the prelims of the 200!!

Just going to say this. Holy crap he looked smooth.

[Ecliptica]

Brandon Byram looked good, too. I love the indoor 200.

[wokthatway]

Go online and watch it on ESPN

your internet provider needs to carry it to watch it, mine doesnt. results thus far?

[TeamOrange]

your internet provider needs to carry it to watch it, mine doesnt. results thus far?

google bro

http://www.flashresults.com/2011_Meets/indoor/03-11-NCAADiv1/

[hoegher]

These women need to grow some balls and pick up the pace.

[TeamOrange]

These women need to grow some balls and pick up the pace.

Nah they need to keep it slow, I'm watching the high school 5k girls want to catch the collegiate men's 5k

[inyoface]

This stream is absolutely awful. It's choppy and blurry and pissing me off.

[inyoface]

Also, was the Florida girl messing with a watch?

EDIT: I don't think it was Florida. Whoever was second.

EDIT2: lol, Texas. Don't mind me, I can't tell who is who with how blurry it is.

[TeamOrange]

Jesus thank god I don't have to listen to NBIN anymore that guy was painful

[Crystazul]

This stream is absolutely awful. It's choppy and blurry and pissing me off.

Where are you watching? I haven't had any problems so far. *knock on wood*

[hoegher]

This stream is absolutely awful. It's choppy and blurry and pissing me off.

Eh, it's not terrible. And it's free!

Though Universal Sports does way better, to be sure.

[Crystazul]

What is up with Luke Puskedra? Straight to the back and a shin wrap on one leg?

[inyoface]

Where are you watching? I haven't had any problems so far. *knock on wood*
Where as in what channel or where as in physical location?

I'm watching on ESPN3 in Clovis. I would attribute it to my internet but other people are having the same issues I am.
Eh, it's not terrible. And it's free!

Though Universal Sports does way better, to be sure.
If it freezes every 20 seconds it's terrible.

[hoegher]

If it freezes every 20 seconds it's terrible.

Oh, I'm not really having that issue. Just a bit blurry.

Go Heath! And Wisconsin, I think they're sitting in 6th right now.

[Leftfielder]

kORIR SMOKES SAM eSTRADA BIG PR IN 4TH

Sambu 3rd winner in 13:25

[TeamOrange]

Good race

[Leftfielder]

Sounds like Crouser could have scored in the Shot

[Leftfielder]

1Leonard KorirJRIona13:26.01 M 10 2Sam ChelangaSRLiberty13:27.34 F 8 3Stephen SambuJRArizona13:28.48 6 4Diego EstradaSONorthern Arizona13:29.01 5 5Elliott HeathJRStanford13:34.54 4 6Kevin SchwabSOOklahoma13:36.14 3 7Maverick DarlingSOWisconsin13:36.65 2 8Chris DerrickSOStanford13:36.87 1

[inyoface]

lol at them showing preparation for the interview.

[hjfrick]

Did anyone else enjoy the fact that they showed Korir for a good 3 minutes before the interview started, including Ato giving him a heads up on what he was going to ask?

[king99]

wow can this meet possibly be going any worse for Oregon men? Maybe Centro bails them out Day 1 in DMR?

[Crystazul]

I'm liking the music. :p

[BlackIrish]

wow can this meet possibly be going any worse for Oregon men? Maybe Centro bails them out Day 1 in DMR?

They're going to crush the DMR and the mile and 800 were crap shoots anyway. Greer is good but basically half the field had faster PRs than him anyway.

[king99]

Greer did not try and I could never endorse that, no way NO how.

I 'll bet 1-2 finshers in 5K are combined older than me.:D

[BlackIrish]

Also, Puskedra did terribly. No excuse 'aka bagging a race' for him..

[jekyllman]

Wow, that 5000 was intense. Big props to everyone in that. Those are times you'd see in a loaded Stanford Inv 5000 outdoor.

[hjfrick]

"It's a tie, I don't know how they're going to break it?!"

[shane_bc]

LOL eighth place in 30.78.

[FastAsATurtle]

LOL eighth place in 30.78.

It killed me. I WAS COUNTING ON YOU, KIND BUTLER.

Kinda.

I almost fell out of my chair at the "they've tied!" comment.

[inyoface]

I'm pretty sure the DMR does not determine the title.

[mentle bentle]

Wow, that 5000 was intense. Big props to everyone in that. Those are times you'd see in a loaded Stanford Inv 5000 outdoor.

Yeah Chelanga made the pace honest early. It's refreshing to see that in a championship race.

[eh000]

Hasay-Reid battle!

[inyoface]

Reid just scratched her neck like nothing is going on. She's got this.

[inyoface]

Hasay is crying. How sad :'(.

[eh000]

Holy **** sub-4:30 for Reid.

[Leftfielder]

Eh!

[shane_bc]

Holy **** sub-4:30 for Reid.

F*ckin dirty. That's all I have to say about that.

[inyoface]

Do these idiots know their mics are on? Did you hear that: "Did you catch Hasay's tears? Right at the finish?"?

[eh000]

Do these idiots know their mics are on? Did you hear that: "Did you catch Hasay's tears? Right at the finish?"?

That was Ato, right?

[inyoface]

That was Ato, right?
I think so. I understand that they want emotion and stuff but it's really tacky to hear them talking like that.

EDIT: Hasay ran extremely well for that being her second race although in my experience a race with a multiple hour wait isn't as bad as some make it seem.

[BlackIrish]

Eh you never answered my semi-incoherent text today. But yeah ****, can't believe Hasay lost with a 4:30 1600m.

[Leftfielder]

In the early days of satellite TV they used to send the feed up during commercials of live sporting events and the announcers would say whatever came to mind oblivious that a very small portion of the audience could still listen.

[eh000]

Eh you never answered my semi-incoherent text today. But yeah ****, can't believe Hasay lost with a 4:30 1600m.

Yeah, I only checked my phone after the mile prelims. Sorry.

[eh000]

Wow, Stanford's 4 leg is legit.

[eh000]

WHOA centro with the drop!

[inyoface]

WHOA centro with the drop!
Clearly the Lolmighty did not want Oregon to do well this national championship.

[BlackIrish]

Bayer 3:53?????????!?!???!?!?!?

[Leftfielder]

Did Blankenship have a bloody nose or is it just the bad resolution

[inyoface]

Is the rule a DQ with more than 2 steps on the inside?

[eh000]

Bayer 3:53?????????!?!???!?!?!?

Damn.

So Stanford mailed it in (Sullivan on the anchor). Wish I had known that picking for the fantasy team.

[inyoface]

Bayer 3:53?????????!?!???!?!?!?
I just saw that. Holy moly!
Did Blankenship have a bloody nose or is it just the bad resolution
I couldn't tell either. If it was a bloody nose maybe it had something to do with the yellow flag that came up.

[TeamOrange]

What happen to Alabama? Results say DNF. 2 huge anchor legs for Indiana and Minnesota

[TeamOrange]

Is the rule a DQ with more than 2 steps on the inside?

Kind of what I was thinking but I think he regained it and then stepped out again

[2togo]

What happen to Alabama? Results say DNF. 2 huge anchor legs for Indiana and Minnesota

Injury (anchor leg)

[GeorgieTheK]

wow can this meet possibly be going any worse for Oregon men? Maybe Centro bails them out Day 1 in DMR?


Nope - made it even worse.

Got to be one of the worst Day 1 for the Ducks in recent memory.

[BlackIrish]

New Mexico with a certain D. Bishop having a 3:54.3 anchor as well.

WOW.

[Leftfielder]

Crouser could probably have gotten top 3 in the shot.

[bongturk]

great race by hassay. hope she has something left for tomorrow. running the dmr fresh and the 3000 the next day might be the smart way to do it. i don't know how hasay will be able to run two races tomorrow an hour and a half apart after tonight. i guess that's what you do if you are trying to win the team title.

[fallout]

DMR race video???

[the architect]

go to espn3 and watch the replay, just fast forward it until you get to what you wanna watch

[orthostice]

What is up with Luke Puskedra? Straight to the back and a shin wrap on one leg?

Don't think too hard.

[cheesedoodles]

Don't think too hard.

this made me lol

[king99]

not really sure what was going on with Oregon men this weekend

They try like heck to get Fleet the Q'er despite the fact that he had to run too many efforts on a just surgically repaied foot and had to be short on training.

Then they double him up, he is way off in Mile, and flat in DMR

Then they run Greer who surely looks like something is either major league wrong or did not try , one or the other, then after a 1:54 they do not even come back with him on 8 in DMR, surely his 32 second last 200 in 800 gave him enough of an interval?

They are only 1.3 down in DMR and Centro loses a show, and did he drop the baton also?

Puskedra runs 14:0x looking like he should have a drum and fife in his hands?


Maybe Centro redeems a bunch of this with a 3K win? A couple guys went to well in DMR and 5K last night.

[Show'EmTheRopes]

Could've seen this one coming.
Even entering him in the mile was a huge tactical miscalculation. Oregon's DMR could potentially set the CR ... or you roll the dice on a guy who barely got into the meet and the DMR could end up 3rd. Not to mention this guy you're overracing is just coming back from a broken foot that required surgery. The best interests of the athletes are definitely winning out over trying to squeeze that trophy bonus, eh Vinny?


Huh?

Just finally getting a chance to look at some of the results this past day, and I don't know if anyone has said this so I apologize if so, but whoa was Andrew Bayer flying anchoring that DMR! 3:53, extremely, extremely solid. If my memory serves me correct, he didn't even break 4 until this year or maybe late last year?

[stopPRE1236]

Is there a online stream for 12- 5 part of the meet because i cant find in on ncaa.com

[the architect]

Huh?

Just finally getting a chance to look at some of the results this past day, and I don't know if anyone has said this so I apologize if so, but whoa was Andrew Bayer flying anchoring that DMR! 3:53, extremely, extremely solid. If my memory serves me correct, he didn't even break 4 until this year or maybe late last year?
vin lananna. not talkin to you

[antispandex73]

Just finally getting a chance to look at some of the results this past day, and I don't know if anyone has said this so I apologize if so, but whoa was Andrew Bayer flying anchoring that DMR! 3:53, extremely, extremely solid. If my memory serves me correct, he didn't even break 4 until this year or maybe late last year?
If January '10 was late last year, then yeah. He ran 3:58.98 indoors last year. Obviously 3:53 for 1600 is still a great result. But this kid has run 3:57y and 7:48 for 3K so not completely unsurprising.

http://www.directathletics.com/results/track/13995_930569.html

[kingcoe]

Without having seen these races I don't know whether to love these results or hate them for the folks lost to the finals. Wow.

Brutal qualifying in the men's mile. .34 seconds separating the first 7 runners in heat 2 and only .68 separating the heat 1 winner and the 7th place non-qualifier in the 2nd heat. Several articles I saw said Casey did not have much experience running in crowds at this level, guess it showed.

Men's 800 loses Loxsom, Greer, Evans and Primm in qualifying?? Ouch.

Oregon men DMR . . .

I hope McQuay's hamstring is ok for the 400 but I imagine that's doubtful. Too bad. Can't wait to see James though.

At least today we have an Epic battle between Claye and Taylor coming up today in the triple. 3K should be huge as well. Men's mile should be awfully competitive as well.

Can Hasay win the mile after a 4:39 heat and a 4:30 DMR anchor??

And best of all, after the meet we are that much closer to outdoors!

[xcrunna]

not really sure what was going on with Oregon men this weekend

They try like heck to get Fleet the Q'er despite the fact that he had to run too many efforts on a just surgically repaied foot and had to be short on training.

Then they double him up, he is way off in Mile, and flat in DMR

Then they run Greer who surely looks like something is either major league wrong or did not try , one or the other, then after a 1:54 they do not even come back with him on 8 in DMR, surely his 32 second last 200 in 800 gave him enough of an interval?

They are only 1.3 down in DMR and Centro loses a show, and did he drop the baton also?

Puskedra runs 14:0x looking like he should have a drum and fife in his hands?


Maybe Centro redeems a bunch of this with a 3K win? A couple guys went to well in DMR and 5K last night.
Greer, if LRC is to be believed, was vomiting all day. Their freshman on the DMR actually performed pretty well in his place. Declaring Fleet seems kind of baffling after he ran 4:08 in the mile and wasn't close to qualifying. Looked like a pretty passive race for him on the 12, too. Great race for Hassan, though it was probably one of weaker groups of 1200 guys in some time. For Oregon, if Centro keeps the shoe on and runs well, in spite of Fleet's lackluster leg they still have a shot at everyone in that race.
By the way King, if you wanted to see why guys don't want to lead the mile heats look no further than Patrick Casey. Someone on LRC said he was under the weather, but he did work at the front for 1500 meters only to be run out of the finals by an entire heat that just pounced on him. Jeff Thode who took it out in the first heat just barely advanced after spending most of his heat leading or right at the front.
Huh?

Just finally getting a chance to look at some of the results this past day, and I don't know if anyone has said this so I apologize if so, but whoa was Andrew Bayer flying anchoring that DMR! 3:53, extremely, extremely solid. If my memory serves me correct, he didn't even break 4 until this year or maybe late last year?
He broke it last indoor season pretty early, but he's said that he was only a 4:30 type miler as a junior in high school. It's been a been a pretty incredible progression for him. Best stat on the DMR is that Lawi Lalang got the baton in second, ran 3:56.96, and lost three places.
I'm impressed with Estrada running 13:29, many guys who go on to have good pro careers don't run much faster in college.
I guess after day 1, the favorites are Samoei then Preble in the 800. Batty then O'Hare and Hlalselo in the 1500. Too many to list in the 3000.

[kingcoe]

I never understood despite being told guys do not want to lead, why guys just do not go and run their even 4:00-4:01. It gets you to finals, EVERY year, instead of taking the wait and sprint way, where even the best could get pipped at the line in photos

I totally agreed with this post when I read it and now . . .

Thank you Mr. Casey for adding to every middle distance runner's fear of leading . . .

[king99]

Patrick Casey is a horrible example, he really had not beaten anyone big, and his time was way over inflated due to conversion

What he realized and correctly was, that any time Q'er had to run faster most likely than 4:02, he guranteed that , but not really at all by that much, and could not finish the job.

he hardly "lit out" after it he was 2:01.90 going by, he had right idea execution was not very good, should have been by in 1:59-@;00 flat max to lead and see if anyone would come at that pace.

At 2:01.90, he surely was a sitting duck, that is just a bad job, it is not fast enough to really spread anyone out, and too fast to just lay in and slam late in like 54

[orthostice]

not really sure what was going on with Oregon men this weekend

They try like heck to get Fleet the Q'er despite the fact that he had to run too many efforts on a just surgically repaied foot and had to be short on training.

Then they double him up, he is way off in Mile, and flat in DMR

Then they run Greer who surely looks like something is either major league wrong or did not try , one or the other, then after a 1:54 they do not even come back with him on 8 in DMR, surely his 32 second last 200 in 800 gave him enough of an interval?

They are only 1.3 down in DMR and Centro loses a show, and did he drop the baton also?

Puskedra runs 14:0x looking like he should have a drum and fife in his hands?


Maybe Centro redeems a bunch of this with a 3K win? A couple guys went to well in DMR and 5K last night.

I can confirm Greer was sick. Not much you can do about that. Still think running Fleet in the mile prelim was a stupid idea. If fresh, he could've bossed the 1200 leg (even on the comeback trail, he did split 2:55 at UW) and given the freshman 800 leg a bit more margin for error. Not that any of that mattered once the shoe came off. Oh well.

Puskedra was clearly hurt. Another 'sh*t happens'-type thing, but I'm not sure why he'd even run in the first place. Outdoor NCAAs is in three months - so if you're hurt or just coming back this time of year, I don't see the point of taking a chance at the JV meet and maybe setting yourself back. Indoors is such an easy season to bag, in my mind.

The 3km is either going to be really good, or just infuriating. For guys like McCarthy, Centrowitz, Hill who are relatively fresh - they need to make it HARD. If not from the gun (certainly not the best tactic for guys who can close like McCarthy or Centrowitz), then definitely strapping on a huge pair of balls and running a 60 with 1200 to go or something, make guys like Korir, Chelanga, Blankenship, Estrada, Lalang, Heath, Darling, Bayer et al think about how hard they ran last night. If I was a guy like Connor, or Tully-Doyle I'd just start running 63s from the gun and try to pull something off.

Also, king was spot on about Casey's not-too-hot/not-too-cold 2:02 split. That's not going to do anything. Surely a "3:54" guy can come through in 1:58-9?

[xcrunna]

Patrick Casey is a horrible example, he really had not beaten anyone big, and his time was way over inflated due to conversion

What he realized and correctly was, that any time Q'er had to run faster most likely than 4:02, he guranteed that , but not really at all by that much, and could not finish the job.

he hardly "lit out" after it he was 2:01.90 going by, he had right idea execution was not very good, should have been by in 1:59-@;00 flat max to lead and see if anyone would come at that pace.

At 2:01.90, he surely was a sitting duck, that is just a bad job, it is not fast enough to really spread anyone out, and too fast to just lay in and slam late in like 54
Well, he hadn't raced anyone this year, but he was 3'rd last year at NCAA's beating many guys and he ran 1:47 for the 800. Obviously he didn't execute well, but it really is harder than it might seem. That's the point, it's not that it can't be done it's just that it's very difficult to pull off. For the top guys, it's probably more difficult than getting top 3 or snagging a time q'er. For everyone else, Casey or worse, no one's going to help you and you will get jumped hard the last 150 by a bunch of capable guys. At 2:01.90 or 1:59.90 for 809m I believe he is a sitting duck either way. All of these guys ran 3:58 to get in, so I don't see why they'd give him any ground if he comes through in 2 flat and cede one spot. He ran 58.8 the last 400- really not that bad and he judged his effort and that's probably why the 409-1209 split is mediocre, but all of these guys are good and it's easy to chase and pounce.

[kingcoe]

Patrick Casey is a horrible example, he really had not beaten anyone big, and his time was way over inflated due to conversion

What he realized and correctly was, that any time Q'er had to run faster most likely than 4:02, he guranteed that , but not really at all by that much, and could not finish the job.

he hardly "lit out" after it he was 2:01.90 going by, he had right idea execution was not very good, should have been by in 1:59-@;00 flat max to lead and see if anyone would come at that pace.

At 2:01.90, he surely was a sitting duck, that is just a bad job, it is not fast enough to really spread anyone out, and too fast to just lay in and slam late in like 54

I still agree that running a good solid heat making sure you time qualify out of the 2nd (or any later) heat makes sense and I agree that Casey didn't execute and I've certainly posted that I don't buy his "3:54" altitude mile (with conversion).

I was merely pointing out (poorly) that middle distance runners so rarely seem to have the courage to do what certainly could be done and simply sit and kick assuming that TODAY will be the day that my kick will be there.

Weak humor to be sure.

Too bad to hear about Greer and having just watched the ESPN3 reply Oregon definately was in it when Centro got the baton. No shoe lost and he is right in there.

What black cat did Oregon cross on the way to the meet? The one under the ladder where they spilled the salt? Lannana was quoted earlier in the week in an article about Kosinski that things never work out the way you expect in track . . . perhaps he was reading the future or knew only too well how many of his guys were off as well . . .

[SprintsFTW19]

Masters ftw.

QFE

[Equinox2100]

This meet is all over the place.

[lpxcrunner]

BYU for the win in the DMR! Yeah boys!

[the architect]

BYU for the win in the DMR! Yeah boys!
their afterparty consisted of clean knock knock jokes and watching veggie tales re-runs

[lpxcrunner]

their afterparty consisted of clean knock knock jokes and watching veggie tales re-runs

Which I'm sure is ten times worse than getting drunk following a race for you. C'mon give 'em a break they earned the title.

[the architect]

Which I'm sure is ten times worse than getting drunk following a race for you. C'mon give 'em a break they earned the title.
it may have been a joke...

[lpxcrunner]

No worries all in good fun. I know all those guys though they're chill trust me.

[orthostice]

What is up with Luke Puskedra? Straight to the back and a shin wrap on one leg?

Since you got your panties in a twist, I'll do the really quite elementary thinking that you seem so loathe to do.
He's wearing a compression sleeve. If he had a stress fx/rxn/tendonitis-type thing they would've taped much lower down. Just looking at photos, you can be 99% sure he has a bad calf. Seeing as how he hasn't raced since January, went straight to the back (atypical behavior), and ran really slow - it's also not a stretch to conclude he's missed a fair bit of training

BYU for the win in the DMR! Yeah boys!

Not sure "boys" is the right term here. But it is always nice to see AARP - Provo get out for a bit of travel, sightseeing, exercise, etc.

[kingcoe]

Miller Moss of Clemson wins scoring just under 6000 with Klech in 6th and Beach in 13th.

Can Klech become a decathalete? Shot put of 35-1/2" and pole vault of 13-9 1/2" I think could improve pretty easily and his long jump of 24-1" is shorter but a few inches than he jumped in high school.

Give him 36' in the shot, 14-1 pole vault and 2 inches in the long jump and he's 2nd place give or take a point - all very realistic. Should be very interesting to watch him outdoors to see if he tries a multi . . .

Considering what Beach was in high school I would have thought he'd be furthur along . . .

[Crystazul]

Since you got your panties in a twist, I'll do the really quite elementary thinking that you seem so loathe to do.
He's wearing a compression sleeve. If he had a stress fx/rxn/tendonitis-type thing they would've taped much lower down. Just looking at photos, you can be 99% sure he has a bad calf. Seeing as how he hasn't raced since January, went straight to the back (atypical behavior), and ran really slow - it's also not a stretch to conclude he's missed a fair bit of training

Wow, great response. Thanks.

[HJBeast]

Any news on the 400 men's final/HJ men's final?

Has the 400 even started yet?

[the architect]

hasay makin it look easy

[the architect]

yeah...luckily it wasnt live...

[inyoface]

I feel bad for Hasay's teammate who worked the damn race then got outkicked/cutoff by her.

[hjfrick]

"Luckily it wasn't live, so we're gonna do it again haha"-Lewis Johnson, you suck.

[runxc6792]

hahaha are you kidding me "we got some happy ducks here" oh lets do it again "we got some happy ducks here" wow

[inyoface]

yeah...luckily it wasnt live...
They really need to remember that we can see them even when they think they "aren't live".

[inyoface]

I thought Fernandez has the collegiate record.

[inyoface]

van Ingen!

[eh000]

van Ingen!

lol when he slowed down the bunch was crazy

[runxc6792]

"i guess we could say it was a batty finish"

.........

[the architect]

that was a batty finish...facepalm


http://art.ngfiles.com/images/44/th3reaper_palmface.jpg

[eh000]

I thought Fernandez has the collegiate record.

He does. That old record was hand-timed, so you have to do a conversion which brings it over Fernandez's 3:55.02.

RANK INCOMPETENCE, I SAY.

[Chonka10]

Why does ESPN have so much bias for the SEC? They would not get off that Florida dude Hlaselo's D during that entire race. Same with other races, like Nugent from LSU in the 60 hurdles.

[bongturk]

great set of three races for hasay. buckman and kesselring ran very well also. it will be interesting to see if hasay comes back in the 3k. i guess it will depend on the team score. just a great job for her.

[the architect]

Why does ESPN have so much bias for the SEC? They would not get off that Florida dude Hlaselo's D during that entire race. Same with other races, like Nugent from LSU in the 60 hurdles.
dude, dont you know how good they are at football? it's probably residual tim teboners

[cheesedoodles]

Why does ESPN have so much bias for the SEC? They would not get off that Florida dude Hlaselo's D during that entire race. Same with other races, like Nugent from LSU in the 60 hurdles.

thats because they only know 1 person or 1 team in every race... its always oregon or florida lol

[eh000]

Yeah, I don't know anyone except for ESPN that would think that Hlaselo getting 4th was a bad race for him.

[eh000]

Why does ESPN have so much bias for the SEC? They would not get off that Florida dude Hlaselo's D during that entire race. Same with other races, like Nugent from LSU in the 60 hurdles.

Maybe it's because Hlaselo was the only black guy in the mile and Nugent is the only white guy in the 60HH. :D

[hjfrick]

Why does ESPN have so much bias for the SEC? They would not get off that Florida dude Hlaselo's D during that entire race. Same with other races, like Nugent from LSU in the 60 hurdles.
Florida is looking good for the team title, maybe that's why they keyed on their guy?

[stopPRE1236]

I missed the mile what happened with mcgee getting last?

[HJBeast]

Think I heard the announcer say Derek Drouin jumped 2.33m (7'7.75")

[eh000]

Think I heard the announcer say Derek Drouin jumped 2.33m (7'7.75")

Man, I hope so. He's on my fantasy team.

[eh000]

WOW Jessica Beard 50.79!!

[HJBeast]

Wow

[cheesedoodles]

WOW Jessica Beard 50.79!!

yeah seriously... i'm impressed

[stopPRE1236]

This mens 400 should be good I have been waiting for it all week.
Kirani James baby

[HJBeast]

Prediction: Kirani James 44.75

[cheesedoodles]

Prediction: Kirani James 44.75

i'm saying 44.68

[stopPRE1236]

What Happened It Froze On Me

[HJBeast]

Wow Tripped Up

[cheesedoodles]

yup nevermind

[the architect]

the **** just happened...

[Leftfielder]

Gosh that hurt

[the architect]

that sucks for james. love that the guy went over to him afterwards

[stopPRE1236]

IM SO MAD even though I kind of like henry.
Thats why I hate indoors for the 400.

[BlackIrish]

I'm a big fan of Tabarie, but he seems to be involved in a lot of dumb **** on the track. See the 4x4 anchor that he did at the Penn Relays last year...he drops the baton and still ends up almost winning.

[eh000]

Another women's sprint WOW. Lakya Brookins 7.09!!

EDIT: ties collegiate record!

[HJBeast]

Beast 60m run by Brookins.


HJ Results (top 3):

1. Derek Drouin 2.33m
2. Ricky Robertson 2.23m
3. Erik Kynard 2.20m

[eh000]

Demps with the win!

[BlackIrish]

ESPN Coverage isn't complete without a 40y conversion remark for Demps!

[the architect]

espn would talk about 40yd dashes...

[hjfrick]

Beast 60m run by Brookins.


HJ Results (top 3):

1. Derek Drouin 2.33m
2. Ricky Robertson 2.23m
3. Erik Kynard 2.20m
Would have been awesome to get updates on this, or any of the field events, during all the downtime. They keep showing the empty track with no sound when there are clearly things going on in the infield and the throwing area.

[king99]

I wish I could at least see it in the hickish Cable area I am in

[hjfrick]

Derek Drouin = Michael Cera

[the architect]

what's this kid's first name...

[the architect]

good lord... did he really just say "eh"

[BlackIrish]

That BYU girl is ABSOLUTELY BATTY-**** CRAZY!

[BlackIrish]

I wish I could at least see it in the hickish Cable area I am in

King, you dumbass.

Go to LetsRun they have a link to it on the upper left hand-ish part of the page you can watch it online.

[yoshi]

That douche just referred to Robby Andrews and "Robbie Williams" again. Ugh.

[king99]

dude, you have to be able to get ESPN3.com

I do NOT get that, in my area
how stupid do you think I am

[hjfrick]

That douche just referred to Robby Andrews and "Robbie Williams" again. Ugh.
To be fair, he meant this guy, a very successful runner in his own right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KIIOBCfK0

[eh000]

dude, you have to be able to get ESPN3.com

I do NOT get that, in my area
how stupid do you think I am

Yup; it depends on your ISP.

I am pleasantly surprised that mine here back at home gets it.

[hoegher]

I took a shower and missed the 800m :(

AND NOW MY INTERNETS CUT OUT.

[the architect]

oooooh shiiiiit

[the architect]

wow!

[stopPRE1236]

thank god!

[hoegher]

That was intense. I really thought Reid would nip her at the end there.

[2togo]

Jordan Hasay is a freakin beast

[Leftfielder]

That made me smile. Ruppesque

[eh000]

That was intense. I really thought Reid would nip her at the end there.

Same.

Higginson for 5th! Only one person in the meet, but she made it count.

Oregon dominating the women's team battle; my goodness.

[Carmelo]

Are kingcoe and king99 the same person? Because they type the same way.

[king99]

Complete HORROR Show beastly performance by Hasay

Mile Prelims, great DMR leg, mile winner, 3K winner

Just an All Meet/ All Star performance, NOTHING else you can say

Sheila Reid is no joke, and to beat her on Hasay's 4th race is wild..

[Leftfielder]

I bet they go out at 8:15 pace and kick.

[Equinox2100]

Great weekend for Hasay, some serious racing, 4 in 2 days, and came away w/ 2 national titles, 1 silver, and 28 points. Damn.


here we go mens 3k.

[Crystazul]

Wow, that was an amazing race. Hopefully this next one can be just as great.

[Equinox2100]

lol wtf german?

[the stogs]

wtf... just ...german... wtf???

[Crystazul]

German!!!!!????

His shoe came of? Wow.

[stopPRE1236]

<3 hasay. What Happened to german?

[Equinox2100]

wow thats a joke, comon you couldve easily put it on an gotten back into it in like 100m.

[stopPRE1236]

wow thats a joke, comon you couldve easily put it on an gotten back into it in like 100m.
Agreed. I feel like so much weird stuff happened in this meet.

[Leftfielder]

Need 7:52 auto next year too many people

[hoegher]

I don't care if it's racist. I'm cheering for the white guys.

Go Blankenship!

EDIT: 3 Minnesotans in the top group :)

[Equinox2100]

HEATH yes yes yes FINALLY

[eh000]

WOW hella sprint from Heath

[Mighty Mouse]

Holy **** Elliot Heath.

[2togo]

Holy sh** the wheels damn near came of on Heath.

[hoegher]

Heck yeah Elliott Heath! Nice to see a strong championship performance.

Also, Minnesotans 1-2-5.

[stopPRE1236]

I like how they said "we havent said his name once" Thats because they know nothing...

[Crystazul]

Wow...:eek:

Soooo exciting!

[Equinox2100]

he was boxed in the whole way I thought he was going to be toast at the bell

[the architect]

anyone else notice korir doing indian sprints the whole race?

[king99]

I do not know wht folks are surprised at how slow this went, multiple guys are doubling back

German needs a little more fundamental prep, this is not the first time a show thing has done him in.

[hoegher]

anyone else notice korir doing indian sprints the whole race?

Made me angry. THIS IS 'MERICA DAMMIT. THAT AIN'T HOW WE RACE. GIT THAT KENYAN STUFF OUTTA HERE.

[hjfrick]

It seems like there is always an excuse ready for German...

[king99]

Also it was incumbant on guys that were fresh, i.e Hill etc and others to make this faster, they just killed themselves by letting this go donkey style

[Leftfielder]

Duh. Kicking.

[Eastview10]

22 points for Minnesotans! What happened to GF?

[the architect]

i saw someone run off, i thought i was seeing things

[Crystazul]

22 points for Minnesotans! What happened to GF?

His shoe came off. Completely serious.

[the architect]

a tie? IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY HOLY BALLSACK

[hoegher]

I went to NCAA's last year. Watching this webcast makes me miss the Penn State 4x400m anchor from last year. (women)

[king99]

I am also more than surpised that off slow fractions that Centrowitz did not win this going away on a jet plane.

The three guys in front of him were totally to the wall last night, in their events and he got a 4:13 pass with the one shoe and baton thing.

Thought he would drill these guys coming in.

[hjfrick]

I went to NCAA's last year. Watching this webcast makes me miss the Penn State 4x400m anchor from last year. (women)
Do you mean Fawn Dorr?
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/psu/sports/c-track/auto_action/4283925.jpeg

[hoegher]

There's a runner named Regina George?

[hoegher]

Do you mean Fawn Dorr?
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/psu/sports/c-track/auto_action/4283925.jpeg

Yes. Though that looks like a bad picture.

[runxc6792]

the replay was of the 2nd exchange not the final one...

[hoegher]

LSU needs to take 1st, with Florida 2nd. Yay ties!

EDIT: Wait, I may be missing something. The scores are only 15 of 17 scored right now...

[hjfrick]

Man those skinny, white 400m guys sure do love State College.