Road Races summer '10

[thegacfish]

Grandma's marathon was today. Lots of road races going on. Discuss.

[MNpride]

Originally posted by thegacfish@Jun 19 2010, 08:25 PM
Grandma's marathon was today. Lots of road races going on. Discuss.
Weather was much nicer this year than last is what I have been hearing.

Andover Fun Run July 10th or 11th I think :D

[hf.fire]

Holy Family Fire 5K - July 17th, 9:00am.
Location: Holy Family Catholic High School, Victoria, MN
Starts and finishes on track. Also a 1/2 mile fun run for 5-12 year olds.

Race information and registration form http://rb.doitsports.com/indexrr.html.

Thanks,
Jim Kappel
HF CC & TF Coach / Race Director

[Nelly]

For those of you around the Lakeville area. Pan-O-Prog races are held next Saturday a 4 mile and a 1 mile.
http://www.lakeville-rapconnect.com/Activities/ActivitiesDetails.asp?ProcessWait=N&aid=41

[kick'em.down]

Weather was much nicer this year than last is what I have been hearing.

Andover Fun Run July 10th or 11th I think :D

Weather was awesome, apart from a few times that the sun broke through the clouds early in the race. It rained for like 5 minutes tops, and there was a nasty breeze coming off lake superior. I had a long time to judge because I was out there for a while.

Urban Wildland half on August 7th

[runner112]

Anyone see that Hauger ran like 38:30 in the Firecracker 10k?

[borgy]

Anyone see that Hauger ran like 38:30 in the Firecracker 10k?

link? That's beast time! ~6:10 pace

[MTUSKI]

Anyone see that Hauger ran like 38:30 in the Firecracker 10k?

Yea I saw that. Seeing that I ran behind her the whole race. I now feel worthless due to the fact I got beat by a 15 year old girl. :(

Edit: Results: http://raceberryjam.com/2010/firecrackerwomen.html

[RunningThe952]

Are there any fellow LCTC members posting on here yet??

[Eastview10]

oh hey guys...

[Runfaster]

Burnesville High School is hosting a two mile cross country fun run/race on Thursday, July 15th at 7:00pm ish. Reply back if youre interested and i can get you the exact details (too lazy to look on my email right now). My coach is the burnesville's coach friend and were enlisted to help out with the gig

[Eastview10]

It's gonna be a pretty legit showdown, too!

Confirmed three-man teams are me, Baddeley and Sandry; Dado, Anderson and Joyce, and surely O'Brien, Bolland and another fast Bville guy.

[runner112]

Hauger ran a low 11 2 mile (slightly short because everyone started cutting) on grass at the bville race. Some other girl was right with her, don't know who she was, maybe a college runner? Anyone know who that was?

[ccdad]

Hauger ran a low 11 2 mile (slightly short because everyone started cutting) on grass at the bville race. Some other girl was right with her, don't know who she was, maybe a college runner? Anyone know who that was?

Don't know who it was, but she put a serious hurt on Hauger over the last mile. Hauger had her by quite a bit after the first loop and I think she beat Hauger....

[borgy]

Don't know who it was, but she put a serious hurt on Hauger over the last mile. Hauger had her by quite a bit after the first loop and I think she beat Hauger....

Only person it could possibly be would be Piepenburg, but she's fairly easy to notice. Otherwise it had to be a non MN H.S. runner.

[ccdad]

Only person it could possibly be would be Piepenburg, but she's fairly easy to notice. Otherwise it had to be a non MN H.S. runner.

Looking at the picture, I vote non-high school...

ETA -- after a little research, she's a gopher runner. See if you can figure out which one...


Her father competed in track and cross country at Yale • Her mother competed in cross country and track at South Dakota State.

[110136]

Are there any fellow LCTC members posting on here yet??

Not to scare anyone off... but yeah

[hf.fire]

Fire 5K on July 17th at 9:00am
Holy Family Catholic High School

Jake Brown (Minnehaha Academy, recent grad) wins narrowly over Jensen Orlow (Holy Family, JR) with his 16:23.7 to 16:29.0. Alec Olson (Chanhassen, JR) third in 17:12.4.

Emily Castanias (Chanhassen, 9) wins for the women in 21:08.1 with Molly Eastman (HF, 9) and Julia Orlow (HF, 9) close behind in 21:12.0 and 21:28.4.

[borgy]

Looking at the picture, I vote non-high school...

ETA -- after a little research, she's a gopher runner. See if you can figure out which one...


Her father competed in track and cross country at Yale • Her mother competed in cross country and track at South Dakota State.

Where's the pic at?
Is it Yetzer?

[ccdad]

Where's the pic at?
Is it Yetzer?
Not Yetzer...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e277/hermosaboy/BVXS.jpg

[teamrocket]

http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63
lumberjack days results for 18 and under

[ccdad]

http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63
um there are the results for the 18 and under group for the lumberjack days race in stillwater.

1479 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) Connor Olson (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) M (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 13 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) Maple Grove (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) MN (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 39/1403 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 39/633 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 11/126 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 16:12.3 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#):eek:

[theskinnyrunner]

1479 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) Connor Olson (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) M (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 13 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) Maple Grove (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) MN (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 39/1403 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 39/633 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 11/126 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 16:12.3 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#):eek:

short course

[ccdad]

short course

Came up right on according to my garmin (3.12). Yes, it is very downhill, but that's a solid time for a 13 year old!!!

[Sensei]

short course

Even so, more impressive who finished behind him.

[MArauder]

1479 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) Connor Olson (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) M (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 13 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) Maple Grove (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) MN (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 39/1403 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 39/633 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 11/126 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#) 16:12.3 (http://live.mtecresults.com/race/show/63#):eek:
tyler olson's brother?

[borgy]

Andy Clasen 11 yr old, Plymouth 58:40.

Wayzata with another gem coming up :)

[mgcc]

tyler olson's brother?

Yes.

I believe that's the thirteen-year old 5k record in Minnesota by almost a minute. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[nikefree21]

Andy Clasen 11 yr old, Plymouth 58:40.

Wayzata with another gem coming up :)

No way

[nikefree21]

tyler olson's brother?

Should be worded the other way around after that

[14.90]

Should be worded the other way around after that

But Tyler Olson ran a 15:42...

[nikefree21]

But Tyler Olson ran a 15:42...

Oh I didn't know he was 13 too.

[14.90]

Oh I didn't know he was 13 too.

Well, you know, Conner is bigger than Tyler (not that that is saying much considering Tyler's size), and some might argue that he looks older...;)

But, seriously, you know what I meant. In all liklihood, if an Olson (other than Alec) makes state this year, it will be Tyler (unless they both make it, which is possible...)

Remember, though, that Conner isn't even the fastest 8th-grader in the state. Shane Streich was faster in both CC and Track last year, and I think he is a (very) darkhorse candidate to win A State. I'd say that next season (2011), the freshman Streich should be one of the favorites to win State, Musa or no Musa.

Another interesting thing to note, speaking of Musa, both Conner Olson and Shane Streich were faster than him in 7th grade...

[mgcc]

Oh I didn't know he was 13 too.

Still the good'ol respectful nikefree.

[teamrocket]

yea isn't conner around 6 foot?

[14.90]

yea isn't conner around 6 foot?

Well, depends on how you define "around." I'd say he's a tad bit over 5'10", but not near 5'11". He's probably about an inch taller than Tyler, and both look like they've been deprived of food all their lives.

[14.90]

As long as we're talking about potential stars, here's a couple more from lumberjack days...

1193 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Alexander Percival (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)M (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)13 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Stillwater (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)MN (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)90/1370 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)89/618 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)23/126 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)18:19.2 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)1193 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Alexander Percival (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)M (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)13 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Stillwater (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)MN (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)90/1370 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)89/618 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)23/126 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)18:19.2 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)
1193 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Alexander Percival (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)M (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)13 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Stillwater (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)MN (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)90/1370 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)89/618 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)23/126 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)18:19.2 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)1193 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Alexander Percival (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)M (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)13 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)Stillwater (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)MN (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)90/1370 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)89/618 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)23/126 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)18:19.2 (http://www.tracktalk.net/#)
Alexander Percival, 13, Stillwater, 18:19.2 (defeating our very own CCDad by three seconds) :D

Davis Long, 12, Hugo, 18:44.1

[ccdad]

Alexander Percival, 13, Stillwater, 18:19.2 (defeating our very own CCDad by three seconds) :D

Davis Long, 12, Hugo, 18:44.1

I am just happy I crossed both the starting line and finish line at this race. I haven't done that since March and that one was UGLY!!!

[nikefree21]

Still the good'ol respectful nikefree.

I was just saying that a 16:12 is more impressive from a 13 year old then a 15:42 for someone that's 17.

[14.90]

I was just saying that a 16:12 is more impressive from a 13 year old then a 15:42 for someone that's 17.

They are both very impressive times, but you do have a point. Conner's time is downright rare. But one thing I do know is that he is already training more than 95% of high schoolers, which I think is very dangerous. It's bad enough that Tyler will run 1,100 miles this summer as a senior, but Conner will probably clear 700 as an 8th-grader, and they are both so frail that I don't understand how their bodies can take it.

I could say more, but this is all I will say. I've probably already said too much. You all can probably tell that I'm not a fan of high school althetes training like this.

[bill.miles]

They are both very impressive times, but you do have a point. Conner's time is downright rare. But one thing I do know is that he is already training more than 95% of high schoolers, which I think is very dangerous. It's bad enough that Tyler will run 1,100 miles this summer as a senior, but Conner will probably clear 700 as an 8th-grader, and they are both so frail that I don't understand how their bodies can take it.

I could say more, but this is all I will say. I've probably already said too much. You all can probably tell that I'm not a fan of high school althetes training like this.

I'm sure that in East Africa, students are being encouraged to skip school because the ten mile walk/run from home to school is too far. I am sure that world class swimmers are being encouraged to swim less so that they won't be too good too early. I bet that piano prodigies are being encouraged to cross train on kazoos. (sarcasm is intended)

Gerry Lindgren was able to handle significantly more and had a pretty good career. In the 1960s and 70s lots of runners were out dabbling with that kind of mileage and having great careers. My thought is that each athlete gets to decide what is fun and what is not, what is productive and what is not, what is too much and what is too little. If they are truly running that much, they must love running a lot and are out there exploring their own limits. To use a word from a high mileage era... Cool!

[14.90]

I'm sure that in East Africa, students are being encouraged to skip school because the ten mile walk/run from home to school is too far. I am sure that world class swimmers are being encouraged to swim less so that they won't be too good too early. I bet that piano prodigies are being encouraged to cross train on kazoos. (sarcasm is intended)

Gerry Lindgren was able to handle significantly more and had a pretty good career. In the 1960s and 70s lots of runners were out dabbling with that kind of mileage and having great careers. My thought is that each athlete gets to decide what is fun and what is not, what is productive and what is not, what is too much and what is too little. If they are truly running that much, they must love running a lot and are out there exploring their own limits. To use a word from a high mileage era... Cool!

Well, who's to argue with Bill Miles? ;)

Don't get me wrong. I'm just afraid that kids like Conner (the early bloomers and high achievers at a young age) who have gone their whole lives being told what a talent they have and what incredible things they can do, and intaking all this outside praise, will start to think that if they don't remain on their podium all the way through college, they will consider themselves failures. I'm just a freshman in college, but I've already seen it far too often, and it breaks my heart. I'm sure that all of you have seen it too. In fact, I almost fall into that category myself, even though I've had a high school career that most students could only dream of. And my only offenses were not improving my place at State in one event and not winning state in a relay. Expectations can wreak havoc on people who can't handle them, and not even I could handle them.

So, I guess it's not really the workload itself that bothers me, its the expectations that come with it. I don't know, maybe I've got their motives all wrong, maybe he just does love running that much and he doesn't really have expectations for himself.

[ccdad]

They are both very impressive times, but you do have a point. Conner's time is downright rare. But one thing I do know is that he is already training more than 95% of high schoolers, which I think is very dangerous. It's bad enough that Tyler will run 1,100 miles this summer as a senior, but Conner will probably clear 700 as an 8th-grader, and they are both so frail that I don't understand how their bodies can take it.

I could say more, but this is all I will say. I've probably already said too much. You all can probably tell that I'm not a fan of high school althetes training like this.

Not going to question the veracity of those numbers, but that's a lot of freaking miles (whether you just love running or not).

I checked my log for the summer before my best marathon and between 6/15 and 8/10 (roughly the summer training period), I hit 510. That is with many 18 plus mile runs.

Maybe these young men can handle that mileage, but I know it took me a long time to build up to that mileage before I could do it without breaking down.

I wish them the best!

[ccdad]

Gerry Lindgren was able to handle significantly more and had a pretty good career.

I read his book about his high school training and it is an entertaining read. However, given his exploits over the last 40 plus years, I think there might be some shens in there. Not withstanding his AMAZING performances in races. He is just a bit less than trustworthy to believe some of his recounts of his training runs.

Of course that is just my opinion, I could be wrong!

[ProductoftheVille]

Suprised that nobody has mentioned this yet...

Aaron Bartnik ran a 25:56 in the 44th Hopkins Raspberry Run 5mile.
Besufekad Shannontamrat got second with a 26:53 and Tyler Olson from Maple Grove ran a 27:32.

[mgcc]

Suprised that nobody has mentioned this yet...

Aaron Bartnik ran a 25:56 in the 44th Hopkins Raspberry Run 5mile.
Besufekad Shannontamrat got second with a 26:53 and Tyler Olson from Maple Grove ran a 27:32.

That is super impressive. He's a beast.

[14.90]

Suprised that nobody has mentioned this yet...

Aaron Bartnik ran a 25:56 in the 44th Hopkins Raspberry Run 5mile.
Besufekad Shannontamrat got second with a 26:53 and Tyler Olson from Maple Grove ran a 27:32.

Bartnik is out for revenge at not making State in track.:cool:

Wow, that's a fringe D1 time, and while winning by a minute... and a 5k pace of 16:12. That time is something special. If he runs like that all season, he'll be the undefeated State Champ. I just hope he doesn't burn out early.

[mgcc]

I'm sure that in East Africa, students are being encouraged to skip school because the ten mile walk/run from home to school is too far. I am sure that world class swimmers are being encouraged to swim less so that they won't be too good too early. I bet that piano prodigies are being encouraged to cross train on kazoos. (sarcasm is intended)

Gerry Lindgren was able to handle significantly more and had a pretty good career. In the 1960s and 70s lots of runners were out dabbling with that kind of mileage and having great careers. My thought is that each athlete gets to decide what is fun and what is not, what is productive and what is not, what is too much and what is too little. If they are truly running that much, they must love running a lot and are out there exploring their own limits. To use a word from a high mileage era... Cool!

I like what you're saying. "Burning out" is a phrase used far too often in running. The Tarahumara tribe in Mexico (for those who have read "Born to Run") run hundreds of miles daily and don't slow down till their thirties. Humans were meant to run that kind of mileage.

One effect it will have on them is their speed, but I wrote this response having the thought in my mind that races range from 60 meters to 400 miles.

[borgy]

Bartnik is out for revenge at not making State in track.:cool:

Wow, that's a fringe D1 time, and while winning by a minute... and a 5k pace of 16:12. That time is something special. If he runs like that all season, he'll be the undefeated State Champ. I just hope he doesn't burn out early.

Two Words "Jeff Lindlief"... Won't let him burn out early, it just won't happen. Be peaking for state/post season. If he's undefeated I'll actually be quite surprised. It is very tough to go unbeaten heading into state, especially when you're racing at quality meets.

[runner112]

Was bartnik undefeated last year until nats?

[MAyhem]

I'd say that next season (2011), the freshman Streich should be one of the favorites to win State, Musa or no Musa.

Another interesting thing to note, speaking of Musa, both Conner Olson and Shane Streich were faster than him in 7th grade...

There is no way that Shane Streich is a favorite. But, if Shane Streich wins state this fall, he should meet the president.

EDIT: Didn't see that you said "2011." Nevertheless, I think someone older will come out on top.

[runner112]

Hennepin-Lake Classic 10k

2 0:32:54 1016 M1519 MN Eden Prairie Bartnik, A.

[14.90]

Hennepin-Lake Classic 10k

2 0:32:54 1016 M1519 MN Eden Prairie Bartnik, A.

Very good, but not quite as beastly...

Overall not a whole lot of high performers this year at HLC. Nothing compared to last year for sure...