New Hampshire Indoor Track 2011

[transy14]

Now with XC over, guess it's time for indoor. should be exciting...:D

[BALatham]

Now with XC over, guess it's time for indoor. should be exciting...:D
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us on here care a lot more about distance than sprints so I won't waste time with the quick stuff I know nothing about anyway.

600m: Pete Winslow*, Eric Tahtamoni, Kent Horsley, Bert Deforest, Devereux Geiger

1000m: Jono Vinnenberg*, Chris Cogliano, Devin Motivala, Kent Horsley, Griffin Gagnon, Jack Conlin, Ian Greene

1500m: Brandon Latham*, Jack Collopy, Thomas O'leary, Mitch Sroka, Devin Motivala, Chris Cogliano, Griffin Gagnon, James Godin,

3000m: James Godin*, BJ Smith, Andres Geiger, Colton Ham, Brandon Latham, Sean Brown, Grant Langevin


*In no particular order, other than the fastest returning time is listed first. These are just off the top of my head.

No word yet on whether guys that do other sports (Shawn Provost, Tony Anzivino, Dylan Lafond, etc) are committing to track this winter or not.

[pre2010]

Horsley will win 600 and be close to D1 record!

[transy14]

Horsley will win 600 and be close to D1 record!

bold prediction pre, but running with kent this cross season and seeing his amazing kick made me realize he will win it as well over winslow and i can see that record falling. two mile is going to be an amazing race, just down to the wire. 4x800 should be thrilling as well, depending on how teams focus their relays

[MacRuns]

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us on here care a lot more about distance than sprints so I won't waste time with the quick stuff I know nothing about anyway.

600m: Pete Winslow*, Eric Tahtamoni, Kent Horsley, Bert Deforest, Devereux Geiger

1000m: Jono Vinnenberg*, Chris Cogliano, Devin Motivala, Kent Horsley, Griffin Gagnon, Jack Conlin, Ian Greene

1500m: Brandon Latham*, Jack Collopy, Thomas O'leary, Mitch Sroka, Devin Motivala, Chris Cogliano, Griffin Gagnon, James Godin,

3000m: James Godin*, BJ Smith, Andres Geiger, Colton Ham, Brandon Latham, Sean Brown, Grant Langevin


*In no particular order, other than the fastest returning time is listed first. These are just off the top of my head.

No word yet on whether guys that do other sports (Shawn Provost, Tony Anzivino, Dylan Lafond, etc) are committing to track this winter or not.

Tony will not be doing indoor, and if he is that would be a huge surprise to me. Grant should be able to place either the 3k or 15 (or both, depending on how deep the state is). Also, Chris Poggi will be a monster in the 600/1000/1500(maybe). Here's a guy who ran 2:01 last year in his first competitive season of track. He was Pinkerton's 3rd man this past cross country season with a PR of 16:22. With that strength combined with his fantastic natural speed he could run some crazy fast times.

[BALatham]

Also, Chris Poggi will be a monster in the 600/1000/1500(maybe). Here's a guy who ran 2:01 last year in his first competitive season of track. He was Pinkerton's 3rd man this past cross country season with a PR of 16:22. With that strength combined with his fantastic natural speed he could run some crazy fast times.
I have been saying that all along this fall. i remember watching him in the spring and 2:01 isnt flying but he looked good doing it. I expect big things.

[transy14]

I love these predictions, Latham. great job as always, look forward to seeing u in the deuce

[upenn312]

I thought I would bring in a little sprinter talk.

To me this is the most impressive individual performance from 2011 in any event:
55 Meters
1 Fedrick, Jerickson 11 Salem 6.39D 10

This was one of the top times in the country last year.

Will he go under 6.30 this year?

[transy14]

I thought I would bring in a little sprinter talk.

To me this is the most impressive individual performance from 2011 in any event:
55 Meters
1 Fedrick, Jerickson 11 Salem 6.39D 10

This was one of the top times in the country last year.

Will he go under 6.30 this year?

Yea this is a very impressive time. For the divisional meet he'll get 10 pts. for salem for sure.
Speaking of point scoring for boys, I think that if BG gets more sprinters to turn out for track to run they have a legitimate shot at the team title with such depth in the distance events. It's stil wide open tho. Who are everyones favorites to win this year???:)

[upenn312]

Yea this is a very impressive time. For the divisional meet he'll get 10 pts. for salem for sure.
Speaking of point scoring for boys, I think that if BG gets more sprinters to turn out for track to run they have a legitimate shot at the team title with such depth in the distance events. It's stil wide open tho. Who are everyones favorites to win this year???:)

I think there is one guy, CJ Boykin from BG, who would have a shot at sub 6.6 in the 55 meters but has not committed to run. He is a footballer who has substantial raw speed. If he runs there is no question he would be in the mix at the top.

[BALatham]

I think there is one guy, CJ Boykin from BG, who would have a shot at sub 6.6 in the 55 meters but has not committed to run. He is a footballer who has substantial raw speed. If he runs there is no question he would be in the mix at the top.
If he has not committed to run, why are we bringing it up? And dont go thinking Jerickson is a lock in either the 55 or 300m. the kid who was second behing him in the 100 and actually ran a faster 200 is returning from Pinkerton. Smith, i think was his name.

[upenn312]

If he has not committed to run, why are we bringing it up? And dont go thinking Jerickson is a lock in either the 55 or 300m. the kid who was second behing him in the 100 and actually ran a faster 200 is returning from Pinkerton. Smith, i think was his name.

On the first point, he would be very helpful to BG if he did run.

The 55 meters is completely different than the 100, 200, 300 meters. You can not translate success for one to other. In 55 meters, you have 25 meters of running after 30 meter drive phase. In 100 meters you have 75 meters of running after drive phase which means you can make up some distance. Bolt has made a living off this. Rarely is Bolt ahead at 30 meters. Of course a anyone can have a bad start for any given race, so no one can be a definite lock. But the fact is 6.39 was one of the top times in country last year.

[upenn312]

Which NH State Boy's record if any get broken this year?

I would say 55 meters has best chance to go down based on last years performance. Fedrick is with in .01 of setting. Sprinters also don't have to deal with tough distance doubles that make distance records and relays tough to break.

Another wild card is Jared Ombati in the 300 meters. He ran 36.88 as a soph. Typically you see a jump as a junior, 35.02 maybe slight stretch but possible.

The 4 x 800 meters with BG is possible. They have a stable of guys who have potential to go sub-2:00 min. On top of Horsly (sub 2:00 min already), Cogliano, Parella, Chapman, Lathem, Gagon and Desisto (transfer) who ran on the number two team in the country for the 15-16 year old division last year and just missed setting the MA frosh/soph record (held by Mansfield which included Lampron) as frosh for 4x800. The problem is any team trying to break a relay record probably won't run fresh enough to set it.

I also think 600 meters could be close as well to being set. Blatham's picks from last year: 600m: Pete Winslow*, Eric Tahtamoni, Kent Horsley, Bert Deforest, Devereux Geiger all could have a shot. The biggest problem here for these guys to drop 3-4 seconds in one year. NH does not have the same fast tracks as say MA has with Harvard, BU and Reggie. With banked tracks it would be possible not sure on flat ovals.

55 Meters 6.38 2004 Dominique Worsley, Manchester Central
300 Meters 35.02 2005 Dominique Worsley, Manchester Central
600 Meters 1:19.41 2003 Russell Brown, Hanover
1000Meters 2:27.38 1994 Zachary Wright, Conant
1500Meters 3:58.63 2006 John Schroeder, Bishop Guertin
3000Meters 8:42.52 2009 Francis Hernandez, Bish Guertin
55 MeterH 7.44 2002 Cody Kretschmer, Pinkerton
4x200 1:31.80 1998 Londonderry
4x400 3:27.97 1998 Merrimack, Merrimack
High Jump 6-09 2008 Dwight Barbiasz, Milford
Long Jump 24-01.75 1982 Ron Content, Manchester Central
Shot Put 63-03.50 2010 Dominic Filiano, Lebanon
4 x 800 8:01.45 2008 Merrimack, Merrimack

[BALatham]

Which NH State Boy's record if any get broken this year?

I would say 55 meters has best chance to go down based on last years performance. Fedrick is with in .01 of setting. Sprinters also don't have to deal with tough distance doubles that make distance records and relays tough to break.


I could have sworn Jerickson broke the record last year. It muct have only been the D1 meet record that fell, not the state record. So, that should fall with relative certainty.

The other for me, is that given he is healthy, Jono has the capacity to run a fast 2:27 in the 1000m. He went 2:33 as a junior i think leading for most of the second part of the race until gubby caught him. At New Englands he was again in great position and he said he felt as good as he ever has in a race, before getting tripped up with less than 300 to go and the field all went around 2:27. His shuffle stride allows him to not loose much on the tight turns like some of us, and frankly he wants it, which should count for something.

[transy14]

11Fedrick, Jerickson (http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/2220870.html) JRSalem (http://www.directathletics.com/teams/track/114.html) 6.39
33Smith, Emmitt 11Pinkerton 6.69
I believe this is the kid brandon was talking about.

Also, will a rough cross season for jono negatively affect his 1000 time? He didn't finish NE's, i believe, but ran a good race at MOC's

[upenn312]

11Fedrick, Jerickson (http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/2220870.html) JRSalem (http://www.directathletics.com/teams/track/114.html) 6.39
33Smith, Emmitt 11Pinkerton 6.69
I believe this is the kid brandon was talking about.

Also, will a rough cross season for jono negatively affect his 1000 time? He didn't finish NE's, i believe, but ran a good race at MOC's

.3 in a 55 meter is an eternity. It is possible Smith could close gap but Jerickson seems like he is a consistent 6.45 or better type guy.

On cross country cross over. I think it is hard to correlate the two as you move down in distance to the 1000 meters. 4000 meters, hills, mud, etc. makes a big difference :). I do think that for jono to go 2:27 he has to be able to run 1:56 ish in the 800 meters. I think Blatham said his PR was 2:01. But a year makes a big difference at this age. With the extra training in cross country it will be interesting.

[BALatham]

.3 in a 55 meter is an eternity. It is possible Smith could close gap but Jerickson seems like he is a consistent 6.45 or better type guy.

On cross country cross over. I think it is hard to correlate the two as you move down in distance to the 1000 meters. 4000 meters, hills, mud, etc. makes a big difference :). I do think that for jono to go 2:27 he has to be able to run 1:56 ish in the 800 meters. I think Blatham said his PR was 2:01. But a year makes a big difference at this age. With the extra training in cross country it will be interesting.
I dont think I ever said Jono's PR was 2:01. He won Class I championship as a sophomore a few years back in 1:58, the repeated sub-2 that year at MoC to qualify for New Englands in only his second season. Given his missing some key meets last year and only getting to race D3, that may still be his PR.
And I wouldnt weigh his poor finish to cross country at all. last year I do not think he broke 20 minutes at New Englands but turned out just fine on the track. He is not as great of a natural xc guy as he is on the track, as evidenced by running 10flat two mile as a freshman.

[MacRuns]

Emmitt Smith improved tremendously last spring. He was 200m champ at MOC and was runner-up in the 100m in a sub-par race for him. I can definitely see him challenging Jerickson if he stays healthy. The kid is talented and has a great work ethic.

As for Jono, I don't think 2:27 is out of the question, but he's gonna need to be on his game in the right race to do it.

[upenn312]

I dont think I ever said Jono's PR was 2:01. He won Class I championship as a sophomore a few years back in 1:58, the repeated sub-2 that year at MoC to qualify for New Englands in only his second season. Given his missing some key meets last year and only getting to race D3, that may still be his PR.
And I wouldnt weigh his poor finish to cross country at all. last year I do not think he broke 20 minutes at New Englands but turned out just fine on the track. He is not as great of a natural xc guy as he is on the track, as evidenced by running 10flat two mile as a freshman.

If he did 1:58, then he is clearly within range. I still think he would need to to be 1:56 type, but its close enough to say its possible.

[transy14]

No word yet on whether guys that do other sports (Shawn Provost, Tony Anzivino, Dylan Lafond, etc) are committing to track this winter or not.

one would think with Dylan's incrdible cross season colleges would want to see him back it up on the track...ikno hes a big basketball player, but i really would be suprised did he not run indoor

[pmcdonough13]

If he did 1:58, then he is clearly within range. I still think he would need to to be 1:56 type, but its close enough to say its possible.

It's not gonna happen.
Maybe gets down near 2:30 and even then it wont be unless he goes to a big race in Boston, NEs, or elsewhere. Not in a NH race.

2:27 low would take an 800 in the range of 1:53-1:54.

Don't get me wrong, I think Jono is a great kid and a good runner, but 2:27 is too fast. 3 secs (down to 230) would be a huge PR y/o/y and is probably still on the optimistic side.

[upenn312]

It's not gonna happen.
Maybe gets down near 2:30 and even then it wont be unless he goes to a big race in Boston, NEs, or elsewhere. Not in a NH race.

2:27 low would take an 800 in the range of 1:53-1:54.

Do get me wrong, I think Jono is a great kid and a good runner, but 2:27 is too fast. 3 secs (down to 230) would be a huge PR y/o/y and is probably still on the optimistic side.

The more I think about it the more I think you are on the mark with your analysis. Josh Lampron in MA ran 2:29 in the 1000 meters last winter, and ran 1:54 outdoors in the 800 meters. The other issue is the indoor track itself. As you say, he would have to run it at Harvard, BU, Reggie, Yale etc.

[GerryLindgren]

Which NH State Boy's record if any get broken this year?

I also think 600 meters could be close as well to being set.
600 Meters 1:19.41 2003 Russell Brown, Hanover
1000Meters 2:27.38 1994 Zachary Wright, Conant


To think that the state record for the 600m is in any kind of jeopardy, is a bit of a stretch. I think that there are a good number of talented guys who are ready to run fast this season, and the D1 record: 1:21.85 William Godfrey, Merrimack 2007 could certainly go down, but the 1:19.41 will survive this season.

The 1k record of 2:27 is also safe this season. A sub 2:30 is possible, but it would take for someone to be in 1:54 shape this indoor season to do that. There several who will be there by outdoors, but it would be unlikely for indoors.

The D2 record for the 1k and/or the 1500m will be lowered if the best D2 guys run it fresh.

Best bet for a record will be the 300m.

[BALatham]

I honestly think that Godfrey's 600m mark is safe, but it is touchable. I dont think there are any returners from sub 1:23 last year, and the shorter the event makes it harder to take off time.

[Runner0323]

one would think with Dylan's incrdible cross season colleges would want to see him back it up on the track...ikno hes a big basketball player, but i really would be suprised did he not run indoor

Ill be doing indoor track for the first time ever... Im done with ball.
See how it goes

[UbaldoJimenez]

D1
3000: Godin
1500: Lafond or Latham
1000: Motivala
600: Horsley

D2
3000: Collopy
1500: O'Leary
1000: Vinnenberg
600: No idea

Also just a side note. It's always a relief to come back to this site after visiting nhtracktalk.com. Its embarassing to look at.

[BALatham]

D1
D2
600: No idea

Also just a side note. It's always a relief to come back to this site after visiting nhtracktalk.com. Its embarassing to look at.
Bert Deforrest of Souhegan is coming back, right? Should be his to lose.

Glad to see that we all still hate nhtracktalk.com, I'll check it out later.

[MacRuns]

Bert Deforrest of Souhegan is coming back, right? Should be his to lose.

Glad to see that we all still hate nhtracktalk.com, I'll check it out later.

Check it out? You've already posted twice, proclaiming BG's assured victory and dominance! Don't think you can fool us that easily, Latham! I'm on to you..

[BALatham]

Anyone who has seen nhtracktalk lately, this is getting out of hand. See if you can guess which one is actually me.

[Chipless]

BALATHAMTHEGODTHEMIGHTYTHEONLY. We bow down to you.

[transy14]

BALATHAMTHEGODTHEMIGHTYTHEONLY. We bow down to you.

...ok...

Anyways, back to track talk:D. I know Cogs, Anzi, and Dylan are all going down to footlocker, and im sure a host of other NH runners are heading there and down to NXN as well. I wonder if running and training that extra week will make for slower-than-expected times from them in the early weeks (albeit no one should be running peak times so early)

[abellomo55]

Distance Qualifying standards are the same as last year

http://www.lancertiming.com/nhiaa/Qualifying_Standards_DivI.pdf

although, I think the 4 by 8 might've been 10 slots opposed to 9.. I remember my coach telling us last year we needed to bump out teams to get to into the top 10 but our winter 4by8 wasn't quite as good with Donnelly playing basketball

[Poggi]

So i was talking to Anzi a couple days back and he said that if he came in top 10 at footlockers then he wouldnt be able to play basketball and instead run indoor! So with any luck pinkerton could have another person who potentially scores in the 15 and 3k.

[Runningflame92]

Footlocker Northeast Regionals 2010 Top 10

1 Chad Noelle 15:42.2
2 Morgan Pearson 15:42.8
3 Jeff LaCoste 15:45.3
4 John Murray 15:45.6
5 John McGowan 15:46.2
6 Edward Owens 15:46.6
7 Patrick Rono 15:46.6
8 Chris Cambell 15:46.7
9 Zach Hebda 15:47.8
10 Math McDonald 15:50.3

-all 10 runners ran 4:14, 9:13, or 1:55 or under in either the 1600, 3200, 800 during the following track season

the qualifiers were all 8 seconds apart last year. If your not attached to the front group at footlocker, low chance of qualifying. I'v heard from a fellow NH runner that they that closed the final 400 in around a 65. So if you can't kick well, watch out!

[transy14]

So i was talking to Anzi a couple days back and he said that if he came in top 10 at footlockers then he wouldnt be able to play basketball and instead run indoor! So with any luck pinkerton could have another person who scores in the 15 and 3k.

thts a huge plus for Pinkerton. Grant, Poggi, and Anzivino give them a potential favorite in 3 different events:)

[Poggi]

thts a huge plus for Pinkerton. Grant, Poggi, and Anzivino give them a potential favorite in 3 different events:)

That is if Tony can pull off top 10 at footlockers, which quite frankly he would need to have a stellar race to do so.

[transy14]

That is if Tony can pull off top 10 at footlockers, which quite frankly he would need to have a stellar race to do so.

Goodluck to Tony tomorrow, and all of NH's other elites running down at FL and NXN:D

[Poggi]

Blazing times at FL!
1. Edward Cheserek NJ 15:20.5 (course record?)
2. Daniel Lennon NY 15.45.4
3. Tim Ball NJ 15:47.6
4. Joel Hubbard MA 15:49.9
5. Dustin Wilson PA 15:50.0
6. Matt McClintock ME 15:51.2
7. Jonathan Green MA 15:52.5
8. Blake Udland NJ 15:55.1
9. Connor Rog CT 16:03.1
10. Christopher Allen MA 16:03.9

[transy14]

Blazing times at FL!
1. Edward Cheserek NJ 15:20.5 (course record?)
2. Daniel Lennon NY 15.45.4
3. Tim Ball NJ 15:47.6
4. Joel Hubbard MA 15:49.9
5. Dustin Wilson PA 15:50.0
6. Matt McClintock ME 15:51.2
7. Jonathan Green MA 15:52.5
8. Blake Udland NJ 15:55.1
9. Connor Rog CT 16:03.1
10. Christopher Allen MA 16:03.9

definatly course record, rog really fell off, Cogliano beats Anzi and dylan but all three far back. does this mean no indoor for anzi Poggi?

[UbaldoJimenez]

definatly course record, rog really fell off, Cogliano beats Anzi and dylan but all three far back. does this mean no indoor for anzi Poggi?

Ben Landry of Portsmouth top runner out of all NH

[transy14]

Ben Landry of Portsmouth top runner out of all NH

good spot ubaldo. breakout race for him or just horrible races by the three aforementioned names? and we're gunna miss tony for indoor :(

[Poggi]

definatly course record, rog really fell off, Cogliano beats Anzi and dylan but all three far back. does this mean no indoor for anzi Poggi?

Most likely no indoor for Anzi :( I'll talk to him on Monday and try to convince him though!

And I think they all must of had bad races Tony was 18:28 and Lafond was 17:45 and Cog at 17:20.

[MacRuns]

Most likely no indoor for Anzi :( I'll talk to him on Monday and try to convince him though!

And I think they all must of had bad races Tony was 18:28 and Lafond was 17:45 and Cog at 17:20.

Got a text this morning saying Tony will be doing indoor. This is a pretty big surprise to me, but I'm glad he's made this decision. NH track just got a lot more competitive this winter with the addition of Tony and Lafond!

[abellomo55]

Keep the converts comin'

Soccer Converts- Motivala, Horsley, Myself
Basketball Converts- Lafond, Anzi

Good to see for NH Distance

[Poggi]

Got a text this morning saying Tony will be doing indoor. This is a pretty big surprise to me, but I'm glad he's made this decision. NH track just got a lot more competitive this winter with the addition of Tony and Lafond!

Yeah, i talked with him today about it! gonna be a great indoor season! wish you were still with us Kevin :)

[transy14]

If he has not committed to run, why are we bringing it up? And dont go thinking Jerickson is a lock in either the 55 or 300m. the kid who was second behing him in the 100 and actually ran a faster 200 is returning from Pinkerton. Smith, i think was his name.

Well its official. CJ Boykin of BG has committed to run indoor this year, which is a huge addition to the guertin sprinting group. Just thot id make tht announcement, since there was some iffiness as to whether he was running.

That said, i am very excited to see what should be a very entertaining 1500 race between cogliano and lafond (and many others) and, with tony added to the mix now, an equally as good 2 mile race. Doubling (or in lacostes case from last year, tripling:) ) is gunna be tough this year with so many horses.

[traedeer]

Sorry to be the one guy with bad news, but Collopy is going to be swimming instead of running indoor.

[BALatham]

Sorry to be the one guy with bad news, but Collopy is going to be swimming instead of running indoor.
At least he is getting out of the garage this year. (though fixing up that car is pretty sweet).

[JorgeRunsXC]

...Collopy is going to be swimming instead of running indoor.
Swim & Track practice doubles are tiring at times but doable. I'm doing it and so are some of my teammates. I wonder if anyone else in the state does this... :rolleyes:

[BALatham]

Swim & Track practice doubles are tiring at times but doable. I'm doing it and so are some of my teammates. I wonder if anyone else in the state does this... :rolleyes:
I've had a lot of teammates that gave up swimming to run, and they were mostly very successful. The only one I can think of dual sporting with the two was senior Jeffrey Warren my freshman year. It did not work so well from him, as he went from a 9:20 3k runner as a junior to losing to pathetic freshman me for one of the last spots at Class Ls. I think that in the long run (no pun intended), it'll actually make someone a better athlete to swim and run, but it sure doesn't make you go faster on Sundays if you had a swim meet Friday night.

[traedeer]

Just to clarify, OR doesn't allow students to be on more than one sports team per season anyways.

[abellomo55]

All State D1---

CROSS COUNTRY
Boys
DIVISION I
Anthony Anzivino, sr., Pinkerton; Sean Brown, sr., Manchester Central; Chris Cogliano, sr., Bishop Guertin; John Conlin, sr., Merrimack; Ben Dutton, sr., Salem; Dylan Lafond, sr., Manchester Central; Grant Langevin, sr., Pinkerton; Devin Motivala, sr., Nashua North; Shawn Provost, sr., Keene; B.J. Smith, jr., Concord.

[Poggi]

When is everyone's first meet? At PA we have a home meet on the 14th then UNH evening session on the 18th

[traedeer]

Oyster River starts on the 18th.

[transy14]

I believe BG starts on the 18th as well.

[JorgeRunsXC]

Memorial's first meet is up at Dartmouth on the 26th.

[UbaldoJimenez]

Oyster River starts on the 18th.

who is this?? C doof??

[traedeer]

Nope. Timo Raeder.

[transy14]

List of top returners in respective D1 events:
55 meter Dash:
1. Jerickson Fedrick, Senior, Salem
2. Emmitt Smith, Senior, Pinkerton Academy
3. Luis Tarantino, Senior, Nashua North
4. Zach Miller, Senior, Spaulding
300 meter Dash:
1. Jared Ombati, Junior, Memorial
2. Chaz Meyers, Senior, Merrimack
3. Emmitt Smith, Senior, Pinkerton Academy
4. Brandon O'Donnell, Junior, Timberlane
600 meter dash:
1. Peter Winslow, Junior, Exeter
2. Eric Tahtamoni, Senior, Salem
3. Deveraux Geiger, Senior, Londonderry
4. Marshall Johnson, Junior, Central
1000 meter run:
1. Devin Motivala, Senior, Nashua North
2. Brandon Davis-O'donnell, senior, Nashua north
3. Chris Cogliano, Senior, Bishop Guertin
4. James Mercier, Senior, Londonderry
1500 meter run:
1. Brandon Latham, Senior, bishop Guertin
2. Mitchell Sroka, Senior, Londonderry
3. Griffin Gagnon, Junior, Bishop guertin
4. David Perrealla, Senior, Bishop Guertin
3000 meter run:
1. James Godin, Senior, Dover
2. Andreas Geiger, Senior, Londonderry
3. Sean Brown, Senior, Central
4. Chris Busby, Senior, Merrimack

[BALatham]

List of top returners in respective D1 events:
55 meter Dash:
1. Jerickson Fedrick, Senior, Salem
2. Emmitt Smith, Senior, Pinkerton Academy
3. Luis Tarantino, Senior, Nashua North
4. Zach Miller, Senior, Spaulding
300 meter Dash:
1. Jared Ombati, Junior, Memorial
2. Chaz Meyers, Senior, Merrimack
3. Emmitt Smith, Senior, Pinkerton Academy
4. Brandon O'Donnell, Junior, Timberlane
600 meter dash:
1. Peter Winslow, Junior, Exeter
2. Eric Tahtamoni, Senior, Salem
3. Deveraux Geiger, Senior, Londonderry
4. Marshall Johnson, Junior, Central
1000 meter run:
1. Devin Motivala, Senior, Nashua North
2. Brandon Davis-O'donnell, senior, Nashua north
3. Chris Cogliano, Senior, Bishop Guertin
4. James Mercier, Senior, Londonderry
1500 meter run:
1. Brandon Latham, Senior, bishop Guertin
2. Mitchell Sroka, Senior, Londonderry
3. Griffin Gagnon, Junior, Bishop guertin
4. David Perrealla, Senior, Bishop Guertin
3000 meter run:
1. James Godin, Senior, Dover
2. Andreas Geiger, Senior, Londonderry
3. Sean Brown, Senior, Central
4. Chris Busby, Senior, Merrimack
Times it'll take to win distance events:
~1:22.0
~2:30.0
~4:04
~8:50

Very early guesses basically to see if we can start up some conversation again.

[transy14]

Times it'll take to win distance events:
~1:22.0
~2:30.0
~4:04
~8:50

Very early guesses basically to see if we can start up some conversation again.

r u assuming each individual winner will not be able to double in a second event? I dont see anyone doubling and winning two events in the times u mentioned brandon

[Poggi]

It will be interesting how the D1 "distance schools" will place each runner in what event to try and score the maximum amount of points. Espeacially now with Anzi and Lafond in the mix.

[MacRuns]

r u assuming each individual winner will not be able to double in a second event? I dont see anyone doubling and winning two events in the times u mentioned brandon

I don't think there will be any double winners this season. I can see Godin and Anzi running going under 9 for the 3k, but I can also see Lafond and Latham running in the under 4:10 in the 15, so his times aren't that off. Guys will double, but I can't see anyone taking home two titles, not with the strength of the guys out there in thr various events. Especially since this year doesn't really have one absolutely dominant guy.

[BALatham]

I don't think there will be any double winners this season. I can see Godin and Anzi running going under 9 for the 3k, but I can also see Lafond and Latham running in the under 4:10 in the 15, so his times aren't that off. Guys will double, but I can't see anyone taking home two titles, not with the strength of the guys out there in thr various events. Especially since this year doesn't really have one absolutely dominant guy.
The field is way too deep this year for anyone to double in distances. the top 3k guys (Anzi, Godin) cannot beat the milers (Cogliano, Lafond) who will likely be fresh, and none of them can beat the 1k guys (Motivala, Poggi) or 600 guys (Winslow, Horsley). The only one that I would even consider is dylan, and this is mostly because we simply dont know what he is capable of yet. maybe he'll be able to hold on in the 3k and come back against we BG guys in the 15, but I doubt it. The state just has too many great runners to have someone run away with multiple titles.

[pre2010]

Battlenotes times

How many sub 9:00?(3000) Who?

How many sub 4:05? (1500)Who?

How many sub 2:35?(1000) Who?

Will 4x800 go below 8:00 during season?

[ZamperiniStateOfMind]

Harder Double:
Basketball and Track
or
Swimming and Track?

[CloverMan]

Harder Double:
Basketball and Track
or
Swimming and Track?
First off, why would you even post this? Second, the harder double is clearly swimming, their practice times are incredibly inconvenient due to the fact that pool time can be very difficult to get

[Runner0323]

Yeah i agree its not the smartest thing to post, but personally I think the harder double is basketball & running simply because of the physical part. I have no doubt in my mind swimming is pretty tough, but with basketball it is short sprints, quick change of direction, and also jumping a lot which pounds on the same muscles that you also use for running. After a practice or game your muscles that you use for running becomes extremly sore and is a pain in the butt for running which can hurt your traning and rest for your legs (personal experience).

Anyways.. back to winter track. Whos going to be at UNH for a meet on the 18th???

[transy14]

Anyways.. back to winter track. Whos going to be at UNH for a meet on the 18th???

Sunday, December 18 (no 4x160m Relay) (Dartmouth)
Pembroke Central Concord Sanborn Portsmouth Christian Londonderry Merrimack Valley Dover Pinkerton Raymond Merrimack Spaulding
Mascenic Bishop Guertin Winnacunnet
Pelham Salem Exeter Oyster River St. Thomas Nashua South Newmarket Con-Val Portsmouth
Sant Bani Somersworth
Prospect Mountain Windham Campbell Bishop Brady
Conant Laconia
Alot of major teams are running at Dartmouth on Saturday it appears, good luck to them

[transy14]

Battlenotes times

How many sub 9:00?(3000) Who?

How many sub 4:05? (1500)Who?

How many sub 2:35?(1000) Who?

Will 4x800 go below 8:00 during season?

im predicting 2 sub-9, 1 sub 405, and 3-4 sub 235. feel free to disagree anyone. i also think sub 8 4x800 team will be tough if teams do not put their top guns to run. deepest team is probably BG, altho as we all kno anything can happen in those relays..:rolleyes:

[BarryGoldwater69]

im predicting 2 sub-9, 1 sub 405, and 3-4 sub 235. feel free to disagree anyone. i also think sub 8 4x800 team will be tough if teams do not put their top guns to run. deepest team is probably BG, altho as we all kno anything can happen in those relays..:rolleyes:

I'm predicting 0 sub 9
2-3 sub 2:35
0 sub 4:05
And 2 sub 8:15 for 4x8

[Poggi]

I'm predicting 0 sub 9
2-3 sub 2:35
0 sub 4:05
And 2 sub 8:15 for 4x8

I think that Tony will definately be sub 9 and Godin ran like a 9:03 last year I believe, but as far as the other predictions i think those may be quite accurate.

[pre2010]

At least 2 BG kids will go sub 4:05....

[BarryGoldwater69]

At least 2 BG kids will go sub 4:05....

thats a fallacy

[transy14]

thats a fallacy

No need for the attack BarryGoldwater. A certain returner from last year will be under it, and BG has FIVE other guys that have the potential to do sub-415, just depends wat they run at D1's

[abellomo55]

Anzi should be able to go sub 9 considering he was 9:24 in spring (3200)
Godin as well could do it as he ran 9:03 at Class L's Indoor Last Year
BJ Smith could maybe come close as well, he ran 9:35 outdoors last year.
Also if they ran Lafond/Conlin/Latham could come close maybe under

And Transy... Would that 5 under 4:15 be Cogs, Latham, Gagnon, Perrella, Horseley?

[BALatham]

No need for the attack BarryGoldwater. A certain returner from last year will be under it, and BG has FIVE other guys that have the potential to do sub-415, just depends wat they run at D1's
That is a really BOLD statement. BG only had three non-seniors go sub 4:20 last year, and Perrella showed us nothing since. 4:15 would have been 4th at D1 last year. I can see three (the top three returners in the 1600 are BG, so its those three) but 5 seems really steep.


I'd say
4-5 sub9:00
2-3 sub4:05
4-5 sub2:35

This is assuming everyone tries. There will no doubt be guys that can go faster but dnt get the chance.

[upenn312]

That is a really BOLD statement. BG only had three non-seniors go sub 4:20 last year, and Perrella showed us nothing since. 4:15 would have been 4th at D1 last year. I can see three (the top three returners in the 1600 are BG, so its those three) but 5 seems really steep.


I'd say
4-5 sub9:00
2-3 sub4:05
4-5 sub2:35

This is assuming everyone tries. There will no doubt be guys that can go faster but dnt get the chance.

Cogs, Latham, Gagon clearly three in shape enough for sub-4:15.

Horsely could likely get there coming off increased training with x-country, not sure he would target 1500 meters vs 1000 and 600.

Parella was in 4:21 range last year, so that is within range if he has good year.

Desisto ran 4:32 1500 M/Sub 10:00 min 3k as a 13 year old 8th grader and possesses fast 800 meter speed. He did not run last year at all Indoors due to basketball and overwork from MA cross country season as a Frosh. He is transfer from MA. He will hit sub-4:20, if he has a good year he could be in the 4:15 range.

Chapman is also a possibility, in that he is a better track runner than cross country and has good speed.

Not saying 5 guys will do it but there is a path to get there. You would need two from Horsely, Parella, Desisto, and Chapman to complete the list.

[BALatham]

Cogs, Lathem, Gagon clearly three in shape enough for sub-4:15.

Horsely could likely get there coming off increased training with x-country, not sure he would target 1500 meters vs 1000 and 600.

Parella was in 4:21 range last year, so that is within range if he has good year.

Desisto ran 4:32 1500 M/Sub 10:00 min 3k as a 13 year old 8th grader and possesses fast 800 meter speed. He did not run last year at all Indoors due to basketball and overwork from MA cross country season as a Frosh. He is transfer from MA. He will hit sub-4:20, if he has a good year he could be in the 4:15 range.

Chapman is also a possibility, in that he is a better track runner than cross country and has good speed.

Not saying 5 guys will do it but there is a path to get there. You would need two from Horsely, Parella, Desisto, and Chapman to complete the list.
A really pro-BG poster has spelt my name wrong. I have reached a new rock bottom.

[upenn312]

A really pro-BG poster has spelt my name wrong. I have reached a new rock bottom.

It is late that is what I get for posting past 11 PM. I fixed it.:)

[transy14]

That is a really BOLD statement. BG only had three non-seniors go sub 4:20 last year, and Perrella showed us nothing since. 4:15 would have been 4th at D1 last year. I can see three (the top three returners in the 1600 are BG, so its those three) but 5 seems really steep.


I'd say
4-5 sub9:00
2-3 sub4:05
4-5 sub2:35

This is assuming everyone tries. There will no doubt be guys that can go faster but dnt get the chance.

again, my post said potential. Do I think Chapman has the potential? Yes. will he, myself and perrela go under 415? HIGHLY unlikely. However, I do see whoeevr wins this 15 to be well under 405, BALatham, i dont think tht is unreasonable. Unless dupilcated times from last year, which, in general, were slow, I dont see a winner being over 405. There is just too many horses in the race. 5 under 415 for BG? HIGHLY unlikely, but there is potential. Now, moving on from pro-BG comments...

Could this season be Jack Conlin's resurgence? after an off cross season, I can see him being a force. Feel free to comment or disagree.

[pre2010]

Latham will go 4:03..

[Poggi]

again, my post said potential. Do I think Chapman has the potential? Yes. will he, myself and perrela go under 415? HIGHLY unlikely. However, I do see whoeevr wins this 15 to be well under 405, BALatham, i dont think tht is unreasonable. Unless dupilcated times from last year, which, in general, were slow, I dont see a winner being over 405. There is just too many horses in the race. 5 under 415 for BG? HIGHLY unlikely, but there is potential. Now, moving on from pro-BG comments...

Could this season be Jack Conlin's resurgence? after an off cross season, I can see him being a force. Feel free to comment or disagree.

Could be! I know he was struggling with a back problem and maybe also a dietary problem during xc. But he definately seemed over the hump at the end of XC season as his times improved pretty substantially.

[MacRuns]

Conlin is always a wild-card in my mind. When he's on, he can do some really incredible things. Last year he ran well at Class L's and MOC's, but then had a huge race at NE's and placed 7th as the 2nd junior in the race. But after that he seemed to have trouble during the rest of that year in track due to various things. He ran 8:58 as a sophomore so if he can back to good form he should be under 9. Besides him, I think Tony, Godin, and Lafond have the best chances to go sub-9.

[hareofthedog]

Was out running in Durham (sneaking it in before the Pat's game) and crossed paths with Jeff LaCoste. He looked longingly at the trail I turned onto just before he passed by...but he thought better of it. (Weird old guys run them there trails ayup).

I was gonna shout out to him but I brain cramped trying to retrieve his name from memory.

I assume he was down to support you BG guys in the UNH evening session?

Anyone hear how his fall went?

[pre2010]

jeff had mono redshirt this fall ....is back in action , 6x mile @ 4:45....should be ready to drop some fast times..

[Poggi]

Evening Session today
Tony- 9:17
Grant- 4:21

Also heard Jerickson ran 6.2 or something ridiculous earlier today. Can someone confirm that?

[upenn312]

Evening Session today
Tony- 9:17
Grant- 4:21

Also heard Jerickson ran 6.2 or something ridiculous earlier today. Can someone confirm that?

Confirmed, and he looked even faster doing it. It is hand timed but still 6.44 (FAT equivalent) is cooking under any standard this early in the year.

[transy14]

Ben Dutton looks like hes in great shape after winning a loaded 3k against James Godin and Sean Brown. Great race to watch, I know Brandon can second me on tht one

[BALatham]

Ben Dutton looks like hes in great shape after winning a loaded 3k against James Godin and Sean Brown. Great race to watch, I know Brandon can second me on tht one
I second that.

[Runningflame92]

Predictions for D1 State Meet

600 1:23 (always seems to be around this time)

1000 2:34 (if you disagree with the one, name someone who will run it faster and tell me why)

1500 4:08 (because rarely is anyone fresh for it and the ones who are fresh I assume will sit and kick also the cause of a slow time )

3000 8:58 (based by the XC season this time seems reasonable)

[BALatham]

Predictions for D1 State Meet

600 1:23 (always seems to be around this time)

1000 2:34 (if you disagree with the one, name someone who will run it faster and tell me why)

1500 4:08 (because rarely is anyone fresh for it and the ones who are fresh I assume will sit and kick also the cause of a slow time )

3000 8:58 (based by the XC season this time seems reasonable)

Those are all fair. I agree except 8:58 seems a tad slow. Just me though. We'll see how it pans out.

[upenn312]

I know its a Dome meet but still good effort today by all teams. Nice early match up 4 x 800 race today between Soughegan and BG (Latham, DeSisto, Chapman, Horsley). Soughegan FTW. Both teams 8:25.

BG Boys 1500 Meters: Both 4:13 in 1500 Meter (Griffin, Cogliano)
For Soughegan I think Lynch was 4:21ish.

BG Girls 1500 Meters: 4:49 (McCabe), 4:50 (Burke)

BG Girls 4 x 800 B Team ran 10:19 FTW.

[transy14]

BG Girls 1500 Meters: 4:49 (McCabe), 4:50 (Burke)

.

add courtney hawkins of milford here too, i think she went like 454 ish

[pre2010]

Congrats to all Domers! Nice work!

[BALatham]

I know its a Dome meet but still good effort today by all teams. Nice early match up 4 x 800 race today between Soughegan and BG (Latham, DeSisto, Chapman, Horsley). Soughegan FTW. Both teams 8:25.
Souhegans team was Kittridge Kittridge Kent DeForrest

[pre2010]

BG Boys 3 sub 9:10 @ Dartmouth on the 26th?Latham, Cogs, and Griff....

[upenn312]

Who is running 3k Monday shaping up to be stacked race? Oyster River? Pinkerton?

[abellomo55]

Anyone know if timing was off from the JV meet yesterday?

The results my coach got from the meet had our top JV 1500er at 4:56 when our coach had him at 5:07.

[pre2010]

Dartmouth 3000 today' Latham 9:02, Cogs, 9:04, and Griff 9:06...Nice Job!

[UbaldoJimenez]

Dartmouth 3000 today' Latham 9:02, Cogs, 9:04, and Griff 9:06...Nice Job!

By using the nicknames "cogs" and "griff" you expose yourself as a BG runner or coach. The mystery is finally over

[BALatham]

By using the nicknames "cogs" and "griff" you expose yourself as a BG runner or coach. The mystery is finally over
You say that as if it was not obvious already.

[Poggi]

Pinkerton, BG and North all at UNH evening session tomorrow. Good luck you guys!

[pre2010]

Merrimack /Salem boys looks like the teams to beat in D1 at this point in the season. BG girls will be gunning for 10th straight and will be VERY tough to beat.Exeter and Timberlane also look very good. Central seems a bit light without distance star Eliz Conway.

[Chipless]

Merrimack /Salem boys looks like the teams to beat in D1 at this point in the season. BG girls will be gunning for 10th straight and will be VERY tough to beat.Exeter and Timberlane also look very good. Central seems a bit light with completely new coaching staff, graduation of Meggie Donovan, and key athletes (Gagnon, Brown) missing or injured. Conway has done Nordic in the past.

[transy14]

Merrimack /Salem boys looks like the teams to beat in D1 at this point in the season. BG girls will be gunning for 10th straight and will be VERY tough to beat.Exeter and Timberlane also look very good. Central seems a bit light with completely new coaching staff, graduation of Meggie Donovan, and key athletes (Gagnon, Brown) missing or injured. Conway has done Nordic in the past.

NO ONE will beat BG girls. Looking at results, the only way they can lose D1's is through something catastrophic happening. Salem/Merrimack will be a tough one to judge. both have a good blend of distance and sprint stars. The only shoe-in for a first place, tho, has to go to salem and Jerickson in the 55. I know false starts can happen, but tht is looking like a VERY safe bet right now.

Whats everyone running at Dartmouth? Should be an exciting meet...:)

[MacRuns]

NO ONE will beat BG girls


Though I recognize there are clear differences between league meets and the state meet, the Pinkerton girls team did beat BG the other night. PA has some great talent across the board with sprinters Abby Smith and Maggie Barrie, mid-d athletes Renee Hensiek and Kailee Kwiecien, and distance runner Samantha Goldsmith. They also have some good field event athletes. They may not win the whole thing, but they should definitely be up there.

[Poggi]

Though I recognize there are clear differences between league meets and the state meet, the Pinkerton girls team did beat BG the other night. PA has some great talent across the board with sprinters Abby Smith and Maggie Barrie, mid-d athletes Renee Hensiek and Kailee Kwiecien, and distance runner Samantha Goldsmith. They also have some good field event athletes. They may not win the whole thing, but they should definitely be up there.

Maggie is unfortunately moving to Ohio soon

[pre2010]

I agree....sorry about that! Pinkerton girls do look very solid and should be in the mix.

[transy14]

Though I recognize there are clear differences between league meets and the state meet, the Pinkerton girls team did beat BG the other night. PA has some great talent across the board with sprinters Abby Smith and Maggie Barrie, mid-d athletes Renee Hensiek and Kailee Kwiecien, and distance runner Samantha Goldsmith. They also have some good field event athletes. They may not win the whole thing, but they should definitely be up there.

good point macruns, tht is a solid point. anything can happen at d1's as we all know...who knows? maybe they could sneak up on bg...:rolleyes:

[MoskProphet97]

Does anyone have D2 predictions?

[abellomo55]

NHtracktalk.com has plenty of D2 predictions..

Teamwise- Souhegan looks like a force right now, with maybe OR and Leb able to hang in there..

Distance wise- Jono should score big in middistance events, with Ham, O'Leary and Brady scoring in the longer events. maybe Mcclean in the 6? Souhehan should be able to take a lot of 4/5/6 in distance

[Runningflame92]

Of all the divisions, who has a better chance of running a fresh 1500 this indoor season in a time below 4:05, a 3k below 8:50, or a 1k below 1:33?

[Poggi]

Of all the divisions, who has a better chance of running a fresh 1500 this indoor season in a time below 4:05, a 3k below 8:50, or a 1k below 1:33?

1k- Jono, (Lafond?)
1500-Maybe no one fresh but certainly a possibility for these to go sub 4:05. Latham, maybe another BG guy, (Lafond?)
3k- Anzi, Cog, (Lafond?)

[BALatham]

Of all the divisions, who has a better chance of running a fresh 1500 this indoor season in a time below 4:05, a 3k below 8:50, or a 1k below 1:33?
Seems a little fast? I know, I know. Moving on.

1k: Lafond, Vinnenberg seem to be the most mentioned, but Devin Motivala went 2:33 last year and has since improved exponentially, so look out for him.

1500: There are a bunch that can go sub 4:05. Dylan and I ran equivilant times in the spring, Anzi is already at 4:12 and OlEary even faster so they are in striking range, and cogs ran 4:25 full mile at BU so he is also right there. It is just an issue of people being rested enough to do it at the end of a big meet.

3k: Anzivino and Godin showed in the spring that they certainly can go that fast. Dylan Lafond showed in cross country that he can go that fast. And Cogs and I are already sub 9:05 so we should be able to go that fast come february. 8:42 record should be safe, but it promises to be a very good field at D1s.

[pre2010]

All 3 BG kids should go sub 9 @ D1 Meet better question is how fast will they run the 1500 off a hard 3k...LaCoste even mixed in a 1k and did pretty good..should be interesting.

[BarryGoldwater69]

All 3 BG kids should go sub 9 @ D1 Meet better question is how fast will they run the 1500 off a hard 3k...LaCoste even mixed in a 1k and did pretty good..should be interesting.

I would be suprised to see the BG kids go sub 9. For that to happen a full effort would be needed. I wouldn't be surprised to see a much slower pace in the 3k in order for kids to be preserved for later races. None of the BG kids are capable of doing what lacoste did last year. If they want any shot at winning the team title they will have to make the 3k a more strategic battle

[GerryLindgren]

Jerickson Fedrick wins the 55m at Dartmouth tying the state record with a time of 6.39. This is the fastest time in the country. The season is early, but it's still impressive, especially considering that New Englands is still 2 months away.

As people have mentioned, there is no such thing as a sure thing, but he's definitely HEAVILY favored to win states.

[traedeer]

Jerickson Fedrick wins the 55m at Dartmouth tying the state record with a time of 6.39. This is the fastest time in the country. The season is early, but it's still impressive, especially considering that New Englands is still 2 months away.

As people have mentioned, there is no such thing as a sure thing, but he's definitely HEAVILY favored to win states.

Number 2 time in the country, actually. Jeryl Brazil ran a 6.36 today.

[upenn312]

Betsy Garnick crushed NH state record in the 55m hurdles and ran 8.26. She is seventh in the country. She lost to number 1 hurdler in Mass by .03 seconds. It was a great final.

[pre2010]

Molly McCabe (800) 2:16 is number 2 in the Nation! Congrats!

[pre2010]

1:35 for Molly McCabe in 600 #3 in the Nation. Congrats!

[Poggi]

Afternoon session UNH
Tony- 2:39
Myself- 2:41

Kopetz- 4:21

Grant- 9:23

Kwiecien- 1:28

[pre2010]

Looks like a State Champion 4x800 team...

[traedeer]

600m - Winslow 1:25.34, Harter 1:25.74, Cullinane 126:30

1500m - O'Leary 4:10.82, Brady 4:13.20

Godin wins 3k in 9:22, Druskat in the 300m 37.15

OR and Winnacunnet tie for first, but OR keeps the trophy after Winnacunnet loses a coin toss.

[transy14]

Motivala 9:01 today in the 3k, very impressive considering he was alll by himself

[MacRuns]

Afternoon session UNH
Tony- 2:39
Myself- 2:41

Kopetz- 4:21

Grant- 9:23

Kwiecien- 1:28

About time Connor ran to potential!

[Poggi]

About time Connor ran to potential!

He'll run even better once we get him on a decent track :D

[abellomo55]

Poggi, I think they mistook your brother for you on battlenotes

Event 14 Boys 1000 Meter Run
===============================================================================
Meet Qualifying: 2:43.00
Name Year School Seed
===============================================================================
1 Motivala, Devin 12 Nashua North 2:35.70
2 Cogliano, Chris 12 Bishop Guert 2:36.20
3 Gagnon, Griffin 11 Bishop Guert 2:36.80
4 Lafond, Dylan 12 Manchester C 2:37.00
5 Geiger, Devereux 12 Londonderry 2:39.20
6 Anzivino, Anthony 12 Pinkerton 2:39.50
7 Conlin, John 12 Merrimack 2:40.50
8 Mercier, James 12 Londonderry 2:40.70
9 Poggi, Joe 10 Pinkerton 2:41.70
10 Bellomo, Aaron 11 Alvirne 2:41.90
11 Latham, Brandon 12 Bishop Guert 2:42.00
12 Patterson, Hayden 12 Dover 2:42.80
12 Hammond, Craig 11 Nashua North 2:42.80

[Poggi]

Poggi, I think they mistook your brother for you on battlenotes

Event 14 Boys 1000 Meter Run
===============================================================================
Meet Qualifying: 2:43.00
Name Year School Seed
===============================================================================
1 Motivala, Devin 12 Nashua North 2:35.70
2 Cogliano, Chris 12 Bishop Guert 2:36.20
3 Gagnon, Griffin 11 Bishop Guert 2:36.80
4 Lafond, Dylan 12 Manchester C 2:37.00
5 Geiger, Devereux 12 Londonderry 2:39.20
6 Anzivino, Anthony 12 Pinkerton 2:39.50
7 Conlin, John 12 Merrimack 2:40.50
8 Mercier, James 12 Londonderry 2:40.70
9 Poggi, Joe 10 Pinkerton 2:41.70
10 Bellomo, Aaron 11 Alvirne 2:41.90
11 Latham, Brandon 12 Bishop Guert 2:42.00
12 Patterson, Hayden 12 Dover 2:42.80
12 Hammond, Craig 11 Nashua North 2:42.80

This is the second time UNH did this!

[skopetz]

What is everyone running on Sunday? I know Anzi grant and I are in the 3k.

[pre2010]

top BG kids @ Yale.....

[BALatham]

top BG kids @ Yale.....
truth.

[transy14]

top BG kids @ Yale.....

Horsley will be at UNH however. other then tht, 3 big guns are down at yale

[Poggi]

Horsley will be at UNH however. other then tht, 3 big guns are down at yale

Any idea what he is running? 600?

[transy14]

i believe the 6 along with chapman and desisto (me). its the only event we're really putting kids into, good luck to Chris, Latham, and Griff down at yale and anyone else from nh heading down there

[upenn312]

Betsy Garnick (BG) Wins 55 Hurdles at Yale Invitational

[Runningflame92]

On another note: Edward Cheserek 4:01 mile. No big deal.

[MacRuns]

On another note: Edward Cheserek 4:01 mile. No big deal.

4:02

[Runningflame92]

Also, not that this has to do with high school running now but Portsmouth alumni Eric Jenkins 4:02 mile yesterday. Kid has crazy talent

[Poggi]

On another note: Edward Cheserek 4:01 mile. No big deal.

damn thats fast, you just think he's still only a junior.

[traedeer]

Jono 2:31.76 at USM, running by himself. That is just ridiculous.

[guru]

Jono 2:31.76 at USM, running by himself. That is just ridiculous.

he looked great, came through the 800 at 1:58, if someone was with him he may have run sub 2:30

[BALatham]

he looked great, came through the 800 at 1:58, if someone was with him he may have run sub 2:30
By new englands in six weeks we might be in "told you so" territory. Good for Jono. With Mann, Martin, LaCoste, Gubby all gone, the 800 is his for the taking at MoC in june.

[Poggi]

UNH tonight..
Tony- 8:55(wow!)
Grant- 9:03
Myself- 1:26

[BarryGoldwater69]

damn thats fast, you just think he's still only a junior.
Guarantee hes older than he says he is. Runners mature so much between 18 and 19, and it looks like he has already done that. Just as jeff lacoste did being older than everyone else and destroying

[transy14]

UNH tonight..
Tony- 8:55(wow!)
Grant- 9:03
Myself- 1:26

This has got to put Tony, if not already, as co-favorites with latham in the 3k. gunna b a gr8t one to watch. Grant good effort in second as well, gr8t run in the 600 poggi. Glad they got your name right this time, no disrespect to joe:)

[Poggi]

This has got to put Tony, if not already, as co-favorites with latham in the 3k. gunna b a gr8t one to watch. Grant good effort in second as well, gr8t run in the 600 poggi. Glad they got your name right this time, no disrespect to joe:)

The funny thing is they didn't. I'm pretty sure its messed up again

[BALatham]

This has got to put Tony, if not already, as co-favorites with latham in the 3k. gunna b a gr8t one to watch. Grant good effort in second as well, gr8t run in the 600 poggi. Glad they got your name right this time, no disrespect to joe:)
I'd say he was already. Hard to argue with a kid who went 9:21 in the spring as an early favorite. Anyone have a clue what has gone wrong with James Godin. He came on late in the spring and had a rollercoaster xc season, but this time last year looked a lot better than he does now. Frankly, the James Godin that I saw in the past could have easily run faster than 4:23 this weekend. Hopefully he'll turn it around before it's too late, since he is certainly talented enough.

[pre2010]

No team will go all "A" in 4 x 800 thus winning time 8:20!!!!!!

[thatkidwhoruns]

I'm not sure what's up with Godin. He looked effortless during that 1500 but as you said, that's not the kind of time he is capable of. He is one of those runners who puts way too much pressure on himself then collapses under it. It could all be mental, or some aliment we know nothing about.

[skopetz]

Dylan Lafond ran a 8:45 3k and "could have run faster" between high jump, the 1000 and the 3k it is hard to tell what he will be running at class l's

[pre2010]

BG Griffin Gagnon 8:55.50 ....BG Girls 3k three sub 10:50..

[Poggi]

Dylan Lafond ran a 8:45 3k and "could have run faster" between high jump, the 1000 and the 3k it is hard to tell what he will be running at class l's

:eek:

[abellomo55]

How fast is the dome track? well comparatively to Dartmouth and UNH... I heard its 317 meters...

** And Abram Gagnon 9:22! I'm impressed

[GerryLindgren]

How fast is the dome track? well comparatively to Dartmouth and UNH... I heard its 317 meters...


I measured it two weeks ago. It's 319 meters.

As far as how much faster it is, according to the NCAA it's roughly 2.7 seconds faster. I'm basing it on the D1 auto standard for 3k on a 200m track (7:57.2), versus the auto standard for an over sized track (7:54.5).

[BALatham]

How fast is the dome track? well comparatively to Dartmouth and UNH... I heard its 317 meters...

** And Abram Gagnon 9:22! I'm impressed
its much faster. the length plays into it, but it is also a good surface to use spikes on and the turns are very sharp so you are going straight for about 300 of those 317 (or 319 i guess) meters. I wont give a time because thatd be totally arbitrary, but it does help.

That is not to take away from what dylan did, since we all benefit from it, but there is my answer to your question. I was very impressed with him especially given he didnt look comfortable at all but continued to crush it, making me wonder how much faster he could have gone if he felt better.

[Poggi]

Needless to say, I'm super excited for the 3k at D1's! That race is going to be intense.

[Poggi]

Some new times from USM this afternoon

Grant- 2:39
Myself- 2:38

Connor- 1:25.8

4x400- 3:37 (We got DQ'd though)

Also Conlin ran a 1:24.5

[pre2010]

Lafond will win every event he enters so who gets 2nd in the 3k? 1k? 1500? LaCoste repeat!

[GerryLindgren]

Lafond is very good, but he is not LaCoste. I think it's reasonable to think that he could pull off a 3k/1500m double. However, he might have his hands full with Motivala, in the 1k.

[pre2010]

Final Battlenotes are up! Looks like Merrimack, South,North, Pinkerton, Central, and BG....Should come down to 4x200. Exciting!

[GerryLindgren]

Does anyone know who is in what, for Sunday?

[pre2010]

Lafond 3k, 1500 and HJ
Conlin 600 lots of comp
Anzi 3k
Latham 3k
Gagnon 3k
Moti 1000
Cogliano 1000
Horsley 600

1500 as always no scratches all top distance kids in!

3k looks to be a talent filled race. 4 could go sub 8 50

4x 800 all a/b 825 types Londonderry 8:15 A team

Tops teams should be Merrimack, South,Pinkerton, and BG very close on paper south vs merrimack 4x200 for the crown :cool:

[BarryGoldwater69]

Lafond 3k, 1500 and HJ
Conlin 600 lots of comp
Anzi 3k
Latham 3k
Gagnon 3k
Moti 1000
Cogliano 1000
Horsley 600

1500 as always no scratches all top distance kids in!

3k looks to be a talent filled race. 4 could go sub 8 50

4x 800 all a/b 825 types Londonderry 8:15 A team

Tops teams should be Merrimack, South,Pinkerton, and BG very close on paper south vs merrimack 4x200 for the crown :cool:
BG kids will be screwed if they go sub 9:10. Doubt any of them could hold out for the other races with that kind of pace. I've been proved wrong before though, can never doubt BG's ability to squeeze every last bit of speed out of a runner before they get to college

[transy14]

1500 is gunna b just like last year, a great race decided by who has the better kick/who dies the least

[GerryLindgren]

3k looks to be a talent filled race. 4 could go sub 8 50


Unless it turns tactical, there's a chance the state record could go down.

Division I: D 8:42.52 2009 Francis Hernandez, Bish Guertin

[pre2010]

8:42 is in trouble.

[BarryGoldwater69]

8:42 is in trouble.
8:42 is not in trouble. This is one of the worst years in new hampshire distance history. Lafond one meet of champs in barely under 16 minutes.

[MoskProphet97]

He did run 8:45 alone though

[transy14]

Would not describe the 8:45 as being alone. Gagnon was with him untill two laps to go at the dome. That said, he definatly has talent to do it. I would not base NH distance times for indoor on XC times (see: Jono Vinnenburg, 2:31 1000 at USM). Doubling in the 1500m, however, could b in the back of LaFonds mind. Central needs him to place well in both to have a shot.

[abellomo55]

8:42 is not in trouble. This is one of the worst years in new hampshire distance history. Lafond one meet of champs in barely under 16 minutes.

This is not in any sense "one of the worst years in nh distance history" Just because there isn't a Lacoste who can dominate doesn't make it weak. The Class of 2012 is very good and very deep. 2013 isn't as talented but as a grade we've made some big steps and have quite a few more competitive runners than we did last year who've stepped up. 2014 is solid in d2, and there are quite a few very talented freshmen in nh as well. To put it in perspective 72 kids went under 17 at MOCs this year compared to 65 last year. Each D1 distance event in indoors has nearly if not 20 kids qualified in it. Just last week I was in a 1500 where (besides anzi who was faster) the top 8/9 went through 800 in 2:16-2:17. And 5 went under 4:19, 8 under 4:22.. I consider distance in our state to be very deep especially for a small state. And to consider it one of the worst years in NH history seems pretty disrespectful to all of us who are out there working out butts off everyday to improve.

[UbaldoJimenez]

It's the first year since 2006 that no one has broken 15:20. The first year since 2004 that no one has broken 15:30 (corey thorne was 15:58 that year, and he is one of the best runners in NH history).

[MacRuns]

I think what BarryGoldwater is tryingg to say (in his own tasteless way) is that this is the first year in quite some time where this hasn't been one dominant runner in NH. In my four years we had monsters like Cory Sinotte, Francis Hernandez, Aaron Watanabe, Eric Jenkins, Eric Malnati, and Jeff Lacoste, plus a whole bunch of guys at their heels, far too many to name here. But these guys were running some seriously fast times and just owned the competition. The MOC record got broken each year I was in high school (Alex McGrath, Malnati, Jenkins, Lacoste). But this year we really haven't seen that. Sure, Lafond was the best guy in cross in the end, but his times weren't quite the caliber of the aforementioned guys above. In track so far, everyone seems pretty close in the distance events and we could see a number of different scenarios play out come Sunday.

It's been great to see so much depth this indoor season, though. That's a tradition I'm glad to see being continued. Best of luck to all competing at the Class meets!

[GerryLindgren]

This is one of the worst years in new hampshire distance history. Lafond one meet of champs in barely under 16 minutes.

The evidence suggests otherwise.

http://lancertiming.com/nhiaa/Old%20Winter%20Pages/Old%20Indoor%20Pages/d1bnb.htm

Stats for D1 (or class L) for final battlenotes
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2009 = 1
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2010 = 6
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2011 = 8
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2012 = 14

# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2009 = 4
# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2010 = 9
# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2011 = 7
# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2012 = 11

# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2009 = 2
# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2010 = 4
# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2011 = 2
# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2012 = 6

# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2009 = 2
# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2010 = 5
# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2011 = 3
# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2012 = 7

[BarryGoldwater69]

The evidence suggests otherwise.

http://lancertiming.com/nhiaa/Old%20Winter%20Pages/Old%20Indoor%20Pages/d1bnb.htm

Stats for D1 (or class L) for final battlenotes
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2009 = 1
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2010 = 6
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2011 = 8
# of athletes who ran under 1:27 for 600m in 2012 = 14

# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2009 = 4
# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2010 = 9
# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2011 = 7
# of athletes who ran under 2:40 for 1k in 2012 = 11

# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2009 = 2
# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2010 = 4
# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2011 = 2
# of athletes who ran under 4:11 for 1500m in 2012 = 6

# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2009 = 2
# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2010 = 5
# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2011 = 3
# of athletes who ran under 9:10 for 3k in 2012 = 7

I wish i could say "ahh i see my mistake". But i can't. I'm not gonna pick apart each one of your claims. So i'll pick one. You claim that 7 went under 9:10 in the 3k for 2012, and that 5 went under in 2010.
Lets see here... 6 runners went sub 9:10 at the state meet alone, including 5 sub 9. D2 also saw 3 runners go sub 9:10. In this same year NH even saw a runner go sub 9 in the 3200.

I honestly don't even understand where you got those statistics

[MacRuns]

I wish i could say "ahh i see my mistake". But i can't. I'm not gonna pick apart each one of your claims. So i'll pick one. You claim that 7 went under 9:10 in the 3k for 2012, and that 5 went under in 2010.
Lets see here... 6 runners went sub 9:10 at the state meet alone, including 5 sub 9. D2 also saw 3 runners go sub 9:10. In this same year NH even saw a runner go sub 9 in the 3200.

I honestly don't even understand where you got those statistics

Those statistics don't include performances from the state meet. I think what Gerry Lindgren is saying is that more guys have done certain things at this point in the season. How people fared at the state meets and beyond is not taken into account.

[GerryLindgren]

I wish i could say "ahh i see my mistake". But i can't. I'm not gonna pick apart each one of your claims. So i'll pick one. You claim that 7 went under 9:10 in the 3k for 2012, and that 5 went under in 2010.
Lets see here... 6 runners went sub 9:10 at the state meet alone, including 5 sub 9. D2 also saw 3 runners go sub 9:10. In this same year NH even saw a runner go sub 9 in the 3200.

I honestly don't even understand where you got those statistics

As MacRuns mentioned, those stats were for the final battlenotes, going INTO the seeding meeting....so obviously before states. You have to compare this year's stats before states to previous years' stats prior to states, otherwise you're comparing different things entirely.

Also at no point did I mention D2. I clearly stated that those stats were for D1 (or the old class L).

Here is where the stats came from:
2012: http://lancertiming.com/nhiaa/d1bnb.htm
2011: http://lancertiming.com/nhiaa/Old%20Winter%20Pages/Old%20Indoor%20Pages/d1bnb.htm
2010: http://lancertiming.com/nhiaa/Old%20Winter%20Pages/Old%20Indoor%20Pages/lbnb.htm

I have the 2009 stats on a word file, in my home computer, since I had a prediction contest with a friend, that year.

[upenn312]

Looks like at least three teams BG, Merrimack, South around 58 - 62 points at first glance for Boys D1 title. Very close meet. Looks like it will come down to 4 x 200. All three teams are entered in the event.

[BALatham]

It's the first year since 2006 that no one has broken 15:20. The first year since 2004 that no one has broken 15:30 (corey thorne was 15:58 that year, and he is one of the best runners in NH history).

While there may not be a stud this year, as in years past, this is the deepest that NH has been in a very long time. I remember a day where I was the 13th guy ranked in Class L going into the seed meeting and ended up with the #8 seed on the stating line at the Class meet with a 3k pr of 9:33. Needless to say, that time might not be top 20 in D1 right now and certainly does not foreshadow a top ten finish on sunday.

[upenn312]

I heard Vinneberg goes 2:27 in the 1000 tonite down in NY.

[pre2010]

wow that's very fast!

[traedeer]

I heard Vinneberg goes 2:27 in the 1000 tonite down in NY.


I wonder how that will affect his race on Sunday though.

[GerryLindgren]

The 1k record of 2:27 is also safe this season. A sub 2:30 is possible, but it would take for someone to be in 1:54 shape this indoor season to do that. There several who will be there by outdoors, but it would be unlikely for indoors.


I'll gladly eat my words. My hats off to Jono and his 2:27.72 in the 1k.
http://www.armorytrack.com/armory/nbci-junior-2012/#24

[MacRuns]

As for Jono, I don't think 2:27 is out of the question, but he's gonna need to be on his game in the right race to do it.

Looks like the necessary circumstances worked out after all. What a great race!

[traedeer]

Congrats to Souhegan on the win. It seems that they peak extremely well each season.

[MacRuns]

Pinkerton edges Merrimack, 68-63!

First indoor track title for the school since 1993!

[GerryLindgren]

Congrats to Pinkerton. They turned it on, when it counted.

Anyone know what happened to South? They looked like a contender on paper, but it never materialized. Ray Ramos seemed to struggle, in particular.

[BALatham]

Congrats to Pinkerton. They turned it on, when it counted.

Anyone know what happened to South? They looked like a contender on paper, but it never materialized. Ray Ramos seemed to struggle, in particular.

From (recent) experience, I understand that something simple and unanticipated can take a team out of it like as happened to South. Pinkerton did the best job preparing in the short term and had themselves physically ready-to-go come race day.

[Poggi]

Any teams heading down to NE's in a month?

[JonoVinnenberg]

[QUOTE=traedeer;307294]I wonder how that will affect his race on Sunday though.[/QUOT

I didn't feel it too much actually

[abellomo55]

One thing I disagree with (which I'm sure there's legitimate reasons for it being done like this) is picking the all-"state" team before the "State" meet, the one meet that actually counts. It seems like it makes it easier for athletes to get snubbed. I.E Grant Langevin had a pretty all-state caliber performance at states scoring 16 points in a 3k-15 double to help his team pull out a close victory and beat several all-state runners in the process. But since it was done at the state meet and the team had already been picked, he wouldn't be all-state... I'm sure there's several other cases as well. I'm not saying anyone who got picked shouldn't be, they are all deserving of it, but the process just doesn't make much sense to me....

[skopetz]

I was wondering the same thing while they were doing it. What I decided seemed like a reasonable explanation was that a lot of the top runners double and try to get as many points as possible instead of focusing on one event to do exceptionally well. If times from throughout the season are being used then it shows who is capable of running well in many events, rather than doing well but holding back in order to do well in other events as well. I don't know if this is the reason or not but it seemed logical.

[BALatham]

I was wondering the same thing while they were doing it. What I decided seemed like a reasonable explanation was that a lot of the top runners double and try to get as many points as possible instead of focusing on one event to do exceptionally well. If times from throughout the season are being used then it shows who is capable of running well in many events, rather than doing well but holding back in order to do well in other events as well. I don't know if this is the reason or not but it seemed logical.

The reasoning is that, like Aaron pointed out, it is "All-State" honors. It is not "Best performance at the class meet" honors. They weigh the entire season, instead of being potentially distracted by one meet. They do need to do a better job analyzing the statistics though before making the ballot, since there were guys named I had never heard of and elites that were skipped over.

[UbaldoJimenez]

eric jenkins broke 4 minutes in the mile
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/247836-2012-BU-Valentine-Invitational/video/601961-M-mile-H01-Rich-Peters-leads-5-sub-4

[MacRuns]

eric jenkins broke 4 minutes in the mile
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/247836-2012-BU-Valentine-Invitational/video/601961-M-mile-H01-Rich-Peters-leads-5-sub-4

Only 3rd NH native to do so.

[Poggi]

Cheserek takes high school indoor 5k record with sub 14 at Millrose.

[YamaTsukami]

Cheserek better watch out...I am the Herald of the GREAT Kyle Brodeur! Kyle is training hard, running 95.68 mile weeks, and is predicted to run a 13:30 5k. He is going to lead Londonderry to a glorious victory. He runs with the speed and agility of a bear, all competitors will crumble in his presence!

[transy14]

Cheserek better watch out...I am the Herald of the GREAT Kyle Brodeur! Kyle is training hard, running 95.68 mile weeks, and is predicted to run a 13:30 5k. He is going to lead Londonderry to a glorious victory. He runs with the speed and agility of a bear, all competitors will crumble in his presence!

Lets keep this website from not turning into NHTracktalk...anyone's season still going on? if so, what meets ya running in?

[YamaTsukami]

But this is the NH indoor track thread, and Kyle Brodeur is NH's greatest runner...If only we (Bishop Guertin) could recruit Kyle Brodeur...We'd have another state championship...

[abellomo55]

I agree with Rob, NHtracktalk is a much better place for that sort of propaganda.. And no I've hung up the shoes for the indoor season, and am taking a bit of time off right now...

[Poggi]

I agree with Rob, NHtracktalk is a much better place for that sort of propaganda.. And no I've hung up the shoes for the indoor season, and am taking a bit of time off right now...

On the contrary, Myself, Connor and Tony have all decided to go to NE's as did Pinkerton's 4x200 team.

[BarryGoldwater69]

tracktalk.net/dyestat.com has always had trolls, they are not a bad thing. This board used to be all about arguing and stuff when it was on dyestat.com. only recently has it become just banter between overpolite nashua area D1 runners

[BALatham]

tracktalk.net/dyestat.com has always had trolls, they are not a bad thing. This board used to be all about arguing and stuff when it was on dyestat.com. only recently has it become just banter between overpolite nashua area D1 runners

ya know. what really bothers me is the anonymity. this guy can say whatever he wants all I care, but insists on hiding behind a fake name :eek: . I'll start: Brandon Latham, BG '12

But what you say about nashua area D1 runners is true. like really true. like it is ALL pro-BG guys with their attentions seemingly nowhere else. And it really was recently. specifically this year. even last year had significantly more love for non-nashua or durham schools, which seem to be the only reps besides pinkerton's select few.

[transy14]

I second the all pro-BG guys, thts pretty evident. However, i think the forum has become more neautral as of late, feel free to disagree. good luck at NE's Pinkerton!

[gnomeliberator42]

However, i think the forum has become more neautral as of late, feel free to disagree.

I disagree, however I would first like to address the plethora of misspellings and capitalization errors in his post - nay, the disturbing trend of a lack of attention to grammar in this entire forum. While I commend pre2010 for the decrease in his egregious use of ellipses, it would be folly to let this issue be forgotten.

However, back to the subject of the depolarization of this board, there is no reason to include the caveat "feel free to disagree". Are you insinuating that there is a moratorium on difference in opinions? Such a statement is reminiscent to the Soviet ban on factions, a policy that greatly aided in Stalin's rise to power. While I am sure that Barack Hussein Obama would approve of such a scheme, this would be an extension on the SOPA and PIPA acts, which would be inadvisable.

I believe that transy14's post was merely a distraction to try to cover up Bishop Guertin's involvement in the dolphin stranding that has been occurring not far from their school (see http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/green/wildlife-news/120216/dolphins-stranded-cape-cod-video). Indeed, this sheds light on the possibility that all of their recruitment of athletes may only be a cover up on this slightly more distasteful event.

[MacRuns]

I disagree, however I would first like to address the plethora of misspellings and capitalization errors in his post - nay, the disturbing trend of a lack of attention to grammar in this entire forum. While I commend pre2010 for the decrease in his egregious use of ellipses, it would be folly to let this issue be forgotten.

However, back to the subject of the depolarization of this board, there is no reason to include the caveat "feel free to disagree". Are you insinuating that there is a moratorium on difference in opinions? Such a statement is reminiscent to the Soviet ban on factions, a policy that greatly aided in Stalin's rise to power. While I am sure that Barack Hussein Obama would approve of such a scheme, this would be an extension on the SOPA and PIPA acts, which would be inadvisable.

I believe that transy14's post was merely a distraction to try to cover up Bishop Guertin's involvement in the dolphin stranding that has been occurring not far from their school (see http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/green/wildlife-news/120216/dolphins-stranded-cape-cod-video). Indeed, this sheds light on the possibility that all of their recruitment of athletes may only be a cover up on this slightly more distasteful event.

GUBBY CAME BACK!

[BALatham]

I disagree, however I would first like to address the plethora of misspellings and capitalization errors in his post - nay, the disturbing trend of a lack of attention to grammar in this entire forum. While I commend pre2010 for the decrease in his egregious use of ellipses, it would be folly to let this issue be forgotten.

However, back to the subject of the depolarization of this board, there is no reason to include the caveat "feel free to disagree". Are you insinuating that there is a moratorium on difference in opinions? Such a statement is reminiscent to the Soviet ban on factions, a policy that greatly aided in Stalin's rise to power. While I am sure that Barack Hussein Obama would approve of such a scheme, this would be an extension on the SOPA and PIPA acts, which would be inadvisable.

I believe that transy14's post was merely a distraction to try to cover up Bishop Guertin's involvement in the dolphin stranding that has been occurring not far from their school (see http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/green/wildlife-news/120216/dolphins-stranded-cape-cod-video). Indeed, this sheds light on the possibility that all of their recruitment of athletes may only be a cover up on this slightly more distasteful event.

I agree with everything in this post. Even transy's role in the dolphin fiasco.
Gubby, you are a savoir.

[gnomeliberator42]

I agree with everything in this post.
overpolite nashua area D1 runners

Got to be careful with posts like that, though throwing transy14 under the bus is a great start!

[transy14]

I disagree, however I would first like to address the plethora of misspellings and capitalization errors in his post - nay, the disturbing trend of a lack of attention to grammar in this entire forum. While I commend pre2010 for the decrease in his egregious use of ellipses, it would be folly to let this issue be forgotten.

However, back to the subject of the depolarization of this board, there is no reason to include the caveat "feel free to disagree". Are you insinuating that there is a moratorium on difference in opinions? Such a statement is reminiscent to the Soviet ban on factions, a policy that greatly aided in Stalin's rise to power. While I am sure that Barack Hussein Obama would approve of such a scheme, this would be an extension on the SOPA and PIPA acts, which would be inadvisable.

I believe that transy14's post was merely a distraction to try to cover up Bishop Guertin's involvement in the dolphin stranding that has been occurring not far from their school (see http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/green/wildlife-news/120216/dolphins-stranded-cape-cod-video). Indeed, this sheds light on the possibility that all of their recruitment of athletes may only be a cover up on this slightly more distasteful event.

Nice guy, you have quite a lexicon. I will be sure to use proper grammar from now on so that you and I will be cool.

The whole recruitment thing is very annoying. I will leave it at that, I don't see why people keep bringing it up. I have no comment on the dolphin stranding issue, I was told by the brothers the less I speak of it the less authorities will know.:eek:

Of course I'm going to be biased (Rob DeSisto, BG '14), but I admit that. I try to be as neutral as possible on here. So...that is why i am pulling for a top three finish by Anzi in the 3k. If a fast pace is set early on, he definatly has a good shot. :)

[skopetz]

I am going to take this opportunity to reveal who i am as well. Chris Poggi Pinkerton 13'

[BALatham]

I am going to take this opportunity to reveal who i am as well. Chris Poggi Pinkerton 13'

If that was a test to see if people actually read the titles, I passed.

[Poggi]

As well, I am Sean Kopetz of Pinkerton '13


I'd also like to point out that the apostrophe goes before the number... Not after. Chris, learn proper punctuation placement.

[skopetz]

As well, I am Sean Kopetz of Pinkerton '13


I'd also like to point out that the apostrophe goes before the number... Not after. Chris, learn proper punctuation structure.

I was never good enough at school. Hence why I wasn't recruited to BG and had to settle with Pinkerton. ;)

[upenn312]

For those that have run at Dartmouth and Southern Maine, is Sourthern Maine faster than Dartmouth?

[abellomo55]

For those that have run at Dartmouth and Southern Maine, is Sourthern Maine faster than Dartmouth?


I personally think Southern Maine is faster... For the past two years my 1500 prs have come on that track (last year 4:28, this year 4:14) I like the wide turns, and the surface... the tracks themselves aren't overly different. My coach also believes though that the space and air quality is much better at USM..

[thatkidwhoruns]

Nice guy, you have quite a lexicon. I will be sure to use proper grammar from now on so that you and I will be cool.

The whole recruitment thing is very annoying. I will leave it at that, I don't see why people keep bringing it up. I have no comment on the dolphin stranding issue, I was told by the brothers the less I speak of it the less authorities will know.:eek:

Of course I'm going to be biased (Rob DeSisto, BG '14), but I admit that. I try to be as neutral as possible on here. So...that is why i am pulling for a top three finish by Anzi in the 3k. If a fast pace is set early on, he definatly has a good shot. :)

Definitely* So I have seen better starts to the whole cleaning up of the spelling and grammar thing, but I believe in you. Also, Grant Langevin PA 12'

[BALatham]

Definitely* So, I have seen better starts to the whole cleaning up of the spelling and grammar thing, but I believe in you. Also, Grant Langevin PA '12
That's much better.

[Poggi]

That's much better.

*Wishing there was a "thumbs up" emoticon right now...*



On another note... Jono runs 1:54 at the New England Open Championships at Harvard.

[transy14]

On another note... Jono runs 1:54 at the New England Open Championships at Harvard.

There is your all-state champion. No one is running a time like that this year, but there will be a host of kids at 1:58, yourself included chris.

[upenn312]

There is your all-state champion. No one is running a time like that this year, but there will be a host of kids at 1:58, yourself included chris.

I was at the race, he looked very strong, no doubt he will go 1:52 or better outdoors.

[MacRuns]

D3 record is 1:57.40 by Conant's Zach Wright (1993).

[BALatham]

D3 record is 1:57.40 by Conant's Zach Wright (1993).

It is going to be very hard to knock that down given that he will likely not be fresh, and definitely will be all alone. I can't think of anyone else in D3 that will break 2:00 that day. Then again, I would not put it past that kid to win an 800m race by 4 or more seconds, its just that I think he will only have wins on his mind and times can wait for MoC.

[Poggi]

It is going to be very hard to knock that down given that he will likely not be fresh, and definitely will be all alone. I can't think of anyone else in D3 that will break 2:00 that day. Then again, I would not put it past that kid to win an 800m race by 4 or more seconds, its just that I think he will only have wins on his mind and times can wait for MoC.


He only had wins on his mind when at indoor division 2's (having run a 2:27 two days earlier) he blew away both fields in the 1000-1500 double. And thats not an easy double by any means. I have complete faith Jono will go hard and wont slack in the least just for wins at D3's, MOC, etc..

[abellomo55]

I know this was published a month ago but I just saw it for the first time today.... NH Boys 2011 Gatorade ROY: Colton Ham

http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/player-of-the-year/post/_/id/5121/new-hampshire-boys-xc-roy-colton-ham

[GerryLindgren]

Any predictions for LaFond in the 2Mile? Jono in the 1k and/or the Mile?

[Poggi]

Any predictions for LaFond in the 2Mile? Jono in the 1k and/or the Mile?

Lafond wasn't there, also Jono ran a 2:47 :(
I tried to find him after his race, but right after he finished he like limped off the track and I didn't see him again.

[GerryLindgren]

I wonder what happened to him.

[GerryLindgren]

Jono 1:53.66 (9th place) at nationals. Very nice showing. He might actually be able to make a run at the state record, outdoors.

[Poggi]

Jono 1:53.66 (9th place) at nationals. Very nice showing. He might actually be able to make a run at the state record, outdoors.

I dont know how happy he was with that time, he said he wanted to go 1:52 indoors.

[JonoVinnenberg]

I was hoping to break 1:53 but the race didn't go quite as planned. On the third lap one of the guys ahead of me started getting a little flat and I got stuck and sent to the back and broke my stride a few times. I was able to come back hard and pass three guys at the end and almost caught Strymar Livingston. Unfortunately I missed out on all american by .7 seconds but I felt strong in the race and if it wasn't for that hiccup in the third lap I think I could have had it. Also had a difficult time with confidence in the race. Started to doubt myself a little and that set me behind But looking forward to moving onto outdoors. I'll be getting into some intense training and my coach and I are working for a sub 1:50 for outdoor nationals. Hopefully with good strength and more confidence I'll get that all american back.

[GerryLindgren]

@ Jono

It must also have been sweet revenge on Henry Wynne who won NEs in the 1k.

Nice job. Good luck outdoors.

[GerryLindgren]

Wasn't Souhegan's 4x800m time (from NBIN) a state record? They ran 7:56.11, which is mighty fast and comfortably under the previous state record (8:01.45 by Merrimack).

I know that New Hampshire has some wacky rules as to which records get recognized and which ones don't. How Francis' 1600m from the Hartford invite is accepted, yet Steve Carroll's 400m (he set the record in 2009....as of the 2011 MOC, Craig Lang is still listed as the record holder) isn't recognized still beats me.

On another side note.....how the heck is the state indoor 1500m record "only" 3:58? When Mortimer ran 4:10.84 for the mile (Syracuse, NY 1995) he would have had to cross in at least 3:54-3:55. I understand that they are different distances, but at least they should do what MA does and list a Mile to 1500m conversion, naming him as a co-record holder.

[MacRuns]

Wasn't Souhegan's 4x800m time (from NBIN) a state record? They ran 7:56.11, which is mighty fast and comfortably under the previous state record (8:01.45 by Merrimack).

I know that New Hampshire has some wacky rules as to which records get recognized and which ones don't. How Francis' 1600m from the Hartford invite is accepted, yet Steve Carroll's 400m (he set the record in 2009....as of the 2011 MOC, Craig Lang is still listed as the record holder) isn't recognized still beats me.

On another side note.....how the heck is the state indoor 1500m record "only" 3:58? When Mortimer ran 4:10.84 for the mile (Syracuse, NY 1995) he would have had to cross in at least 3:54-3:55. I understand that they are different distances, but at least they should do what MA does and list a Mile to 1500m conversion, naming him as a co-record holder.

Now don't quote me on this, but from what I understand records that were set outside of NHIAA-sanctioned competition are ineligible. That doesn't explain why Francis has the 1600 record (maybe Brandon could shed some light on that) but I know that throughout the years athletes have run times that should've been state records, but were not accepted by the NHIAA for whatever reason.

I think for Mortimer's record to count they would've needed to provide an actual split time at 1500m taken by an official at the meet.

Again, I'm not entirely certain about all this, but from what I've heard from different coaches and athletes this seems to be the case.

[traedeer]

Wasn't Souhegan's 4x800m time (from NBIN) a state record? They ran 7:56.11, which is mighty fast and comfortably under the previous state record (8:01.45 by Merrimack).


Where exactly did you find that time? As far as I can tell, Souhegan wasn't at that meet.

[GerryLindgren]

http://www.nationalscholastic.org/nbin/result/1172

Event 79 Boys 4x800 Meter Relay Emerging Elite ================================================================
Meet: M 8:00.22 3/11/2011 Norwich Free Academy, Norwich, CT School
Finals
================================================================
1 Mount Tabor Tc-Nc 7:56.08M
2 Souhegan Tc-Nh 7:56.11M
3 Randolph TC 7:58.81M
4 Andover Tc-Ma 8:01.49
5 Runner's High Rc-Nj 8:02.68 1