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Looking at some meets that O'Fallon ran in for track, I think they're starting to grow 4 and 5 runners. Steven Chorma ran a 1:57.99 and a 4:30.88, and correct me if I'm wrong, but he didn't race state xc last year.
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06-18-2012, 12:06 AM
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Phenom Man's 2012 Summer XC Preview(!)
Things to take into account: 1. I only know what the internet tells me. That means I only know the time listed on the website. I don't know who was injured, what Joe Sophomore ran in a time trial, or what soccer player is gonna come out for cross country this year. All of these things can be difference makers. 2. The reason I call it a summer preview is because the training hasn't taken place yet. There is so much work that can be done by all of the teams that it is impossible to put them in order right now. The number 5 runner from a certain school could put in 400 miles more than a 5 runner from another school, which could (will) be the difference between 3rd and 10th this year. 3. I don't go through every single cross country meet, and not all cross country meets report their open race results. I usually TRY to hit the big ones, but even then I might make a mistake. 4. I do not like self promotion, but if anyone has more information about any of the teams that would cause them to rank higher or lower than where I have listed them, you are welcome to send me a private message. I don't get coach emails like Rise does, but any piece of information helps. Off we go... 1. York I am not going to go through their times like I will other teams because the list is extensive and I spent more time on all of the other teams. It is safe to say that York is the favorite to win state based on the amount of talent they return. If this team wasn't named York, I would still pick them based on the times they have run, but the reputation the program has makes me believe that not only will they win state, they could also challenge for a national title despite what those number crunching national analysts (who still do a decent job) think. 2. Naperville North They return Haugen (15:04), Qiao (15:23/4:24), Ceruti (15:30/9:44), Pecorin (15:24), and a freshman Gshwendter (15:50/9:55). In addition to those guys, they have Woodward (4:35) and Hanselman (4:36). Honestly, it's really hard to pick any team for 2nd place this year, and this decision was very difficult. Naperville North has a strong program that fields a very solid team each year, but I think they have the 2nd best outlook going into this year if they can put it all together. There were no recent track times from some of their top runners (I think Haugen plays lacrosse or something), but I think they will be in shape and ready to go at sectionals and state. 3. O'Fallon They return Riba (2nd place 2011), Perrier (1:54/4:15/9:22/14:57/Fast), Gordon (4:33/15:35, and Koester (16:11) from their state team. After that, they have some mid 16:30s runners I believe. With an amazing top 2, it's easy to forgive a bit on the 4th and 5th runners. I think that with the recent strength of the program, they will be able to get strong enough 4th and 5th runners to trophy. Only time will tell who will step up to the plate. 4. Mt Prospect They return Leet (4:27/9:44/14:56), Shaffer (4:26/9:17/15:15), and Hallman (10:15/15:45). In addition to those guy, they also have junior Daleidon (4:24/9:53) and Paczko (15:59). The last couple years, Prospect has lost a lot from their top 7 and returned to be a strong top 10 team. No team got their **** together (peaked) at the end of last season better than Prospect. Now that Shaffer and Daleidon have had breakout seasons, we'll see if their success can continue. Leet didn't have the best of track seasons, but if he bounces back well and has a good summer, there definitely could be up to 3 allstaters on this team. If their 4 and 5 can run well, I could see this team with a trophy. 5. Neuqua Valley They return Meka (15:05/4:33/9:53), Bushelle (15:17), and Stowers (16:14) from their state team. They also have some young standout track guys in Weiss (4:34) and Baker (4:37) and some other low 10 two milers. Also watch O'Connor who had a good race at NXN Regionals last year. This is the first time in a little while that NV isn't a clear top 3 favorite, which could be just the push they need to put in a huge summer and be one of the best teams in the fall yet again. Meka and Bushelle are proven top runners despite their track times, and should be allstaters in the fall. After them, it'll be up to the rest of the team to fill the gap with some quality runners if they want to trophy. This team is usually very deep with talent. We'll see how well they run in what some people would consider to be a down year for them. 6. Palatine They return just Zambrano (4:22/9:42/15:41) from their state team last year, though Brown (4:29/9:31/15:45) was definitely good enough to be on any other top 7 in the state. They have Stella (15:50/4:31) and Mars (15:55) as sub16 returners, but Smith (9:57/16:08) and Kozakiewicz (10:04/16:17) have run pretty good track times. Last year was an amazing year for Palatine cross country as they won the state meet. They graduate their top 5 runners, so they should be done, right? Wrong! (that line has been used way too much) They had a very strong JV full of guys who can now challenge for a state trophy. Expect Zambrano and Brown to be battling for the top spot all year and a strong 3-5 pack to be behind them. 7. Hersey They didn't make it to state, but do return all of their top 7 from last year. They have Somary (4:22/15:41), Philipose (9:26/15:36), and Rodriguez (4:33/9:52/15:32) should make up this team's top runners. After that, they have Kearns (4:30/16:14), O'Neil (4:36/16:09), and DeLorea (10:08/16:13). This year, Hersey put together some killer track times, and all of their top 7 returns from cross country. If their top runners can convert their great track times to great cross country times, this team will be in the trophy hunt in the fall. I don't know what to expect from this team, but I'm excited to see what they can do. 8. Maine South Didn't make it to state last year, but return 5 from their top 7. They have Vaccaro (4:30/9:29/15:09), Taylor (4:21/15:23), Carpenter (4:32/9:57/15:33), and Dolan (15:28) will lead the team. After that, they will need to find a fifth runner. They have Lavelle (10:11/16:35), Mierzwa (10:19 freshman), and Melerski (16:36). This team has a great top 4. Taylor has made great improvements over the last year, and should battle Vaccaro for the number one spot on the team. After those two, Carpenter and Dolan should be able to improve on last years times and be an excellent 3-4. It is unclear who can be their 5th runner, but I think they have enough talent here to trophy if everyone runs well. There is a ton of potential in this team. 9. Wheaton Warrenville South They return Schroer (4:22/15:01), McKenna (9:28/15:16), and Worley (10:02/15:42) from their 23rd place state team. In addition to those 3, they have Cepeda (9:58/16:19), Kania (4:39/16:28), and Dillion (10:03/16:07). With their strong top 2 scoring low points at the state meet, I can see this team definitely being in the top ten. If they want to trophy, there is going to have to be a lot of improvement from 3-5, which I think there is potential for since most of the guys are young. I think this is a team that could surprise people and place much higher than they did last year. 10. Lyons Township They return Matusiak (9:46/15:19), McCarter (4:28/15:19), Speir (9:49/15:46), Ryan (10:10/15:47), Lupano (15:35), and Dombro (15:43) from their state team last year. They also have Accetura (10:00) and many, many others. First of all, this team probably has one of the highest potentials out of any other team this far down. The only reason why they fell to 10th is because they lack any great track times that would indicate that they might have a front runner. Other than that, they are one of the deepest returning teams in the state and may come away with a trophy. 11. Lake Zurich They return Kuehr (4:31, 15:36), Milner (9:39/15:44), Ripoli (9:36/15:42), and Ramirez (4:38/16:11) from their state team last year. They also have some mid 16 guys and a fast freshman (9:55) who I didn't know about until I went on their website because no one sent the frosh/soph conference results to Rise (I always wonder how much better at this I would be if everything was 100% accurate and complete on that website). There is a lot of potential on this team. They have a great trio of runners in Kuehr, Milner, and Ripoli, and this team could very quickly end up like the 2010 team that brought home a 2nd place trophy. Over the past couple of years, LZ has become a legitimate program in my mind. I hate their training still, but they believe in it and they can make an average kid into a stud quickly. If any of the above 10 teams slack of just a little bit, you can count on LZ to take them down (they might do it anyway). 12. Hinsdale Central They return just Somerfield (4:28/15:25) and Huang (4:35/9:51/15:48) from last year's state team, but they are deep and will reload. They have two other sub10 3200 runners in Magnusen (9:54) and Geiser (9:56), along with Palo (10:06/16:26) and Gachira (4:36/16:24). This team has done well over the past couple of years, and I expect them to repeat that success this year. I don't know if they have the talent to trophy, but they can surely return to the state meet and place in the top ten. They have some young guys with a lot of potential, and I trust in their summer of training. 13. New Trier They return Kaplan (9:51/15:26), Trapp (9:47/15:56), and Gattuso (15:44) from their state team last year. Cotsirilos (4:34/9:55/15:51) would have made that team, but was injured. This is a pretty deep team with a lot of guys in the low 16s returning. Kofman (16:00) and Silverman (10:07/16:27) could both be on the top 7. This team is going to be strong yet again, but we'll see if they have the front running power to place in the top 5 or even trophy. I think Cots will come back strong this year and surprise a lot of (dumb) people. After him, they will fill out very well with Kaplan, Trapp, and Gattuso. Overall, this team has the potential to be very good, but we'll see how things work out. 14. Barrington They return Burgoon (4:27/9:27/14:57), Rappleye (4:38/9:52/15:33), Eiring (16:00), Phillips (16:01), and Skelly (15:57). They also have Frank (15:53) who was not on their state team. Overall, I'd say this team looks very solid. Only Burgoon and Rappleye had track times that I could see, but the others have decent cross country times and can improve a lot with a good summer. The young guys have a lot of potential and could help the team into the top ten or maybe even top five. Burgoon should step up this year and be a solid front runner aiming for a top ten or fifteen spot, which will help this team out a lot. 15. Lake Park Top returners are Lozano (4:30/15:36), Dade (4:31/15:36), Morales (4:30/15:43), Strachan (10:14/15:52), and Peck (2:03/10:18/16:17). This is a team that could surprise (maybe a little less since jpac commented about them as I typed this teehee). They lost their number one runner, but return everyone else and should make a solid run at top ten in the state. Their returners all have solid mile times, but no really good two mile times which always makes me worried. Still, their XC times are legit and I think they will run well next year. 16. Sandburg They only return McMahon (4:22/9:36/14:57) and Letz (9:52/15:36) from their state team last year, but they have Hogan (4:35/9:59/15:50), Gleisner (10:13/16:25, Graves (2:03/15:53), and Dee (16:20) to reload with. As some of you know (the ones that pay attention), I am a Sandburg fan. Last year they got dropped from the rankings after they ran like half of their top 7 with the other half on the DL (or sick?). I said they were a top ten team then, and they proved me right by getting 7th in the state with a totally sick 24 second split (2-5 2 seconds apart). This isn't the year they stop reloading and start sucking. McMahon is a talent and will contend for top ten in the state and the runners behind him will all improve. 17. Niles North They return Beller (4:21/9:19/15:20), Noboa (10:06/15:44), Suh (15:59), Barr (9:59/16:18), and Mortell (1:59/16:24). I've seen better returning times, but they have 5 solid runners and the sky is the limit I think. I think they can definitely run better than their place here at 17th. The problem is, there are 16 teams in front of them who are also all very good. I think if Niles North can peak right this year, I can see them getting top ten and even top five with trophy possibilities. We'll see how much they improve over the summer and how well they peak in the fall. 18. Plainfield South They return Dyer (4:29/15:28), Lathrop (4:31/9:38/15:38), Tobias (2:03/15:59), Pasqua (16:07), and Calvillo (10:07, 16:07). They also have Peters (10:18) and Meyer (16:18). This team may be the most underrated on this list so far, but they still have a lot to prove. Dyer and Lathrop could be very solid front runners for this team. If their 3-5 guys can fill out well behind them, I could see them inside the top ten. Last year, most of these guys ran their best races at sectionals and state. If they can peak correctly again and have a complete team, people are gonna be surprised. 19. West Aurora They return Gomez (4:25/9:45/15:15), Herrera (4:34/15:35), Chavez (16:22), and Truckenbrod (2:00/16:28) from their state team last year. They also have Isaacson (10:08/16:38) and a slew of pretty quick 800 runners. I don't know what to think about this team. They seem very confident and have been putting together solid teams for the past couple years now. I could see Gomez and Herrera improving a lot and possibly being in the top 25 at state. After that, it's a mystery. We'll see who ends up in the top 7, but I'm sure they'll be pretty good. 20. Wheaton North They return Steeno (1:59/4:27/9:32/15:02), Didier (4:33/9:48/15:49), Ryan (1:58/15:45), and Emmanuel (4:37/9:54/16:04) from their state team last year. After that, I don't know who is going to be in their top 5 or top 7. Last year I picked this team to be in the top ten at the beginning of the year. The potential was there, but it didn't come together. The key to this team will be Steeno. Last year he was 15:02 at the beginning of the year, but fell to 15:42 later in the year. If he can peak better, he could lead this team to a much higher finish at the end of the year. Other teams to watch (in no particular order) Downers Grove North Geneva Jacobs McHenry Lane Tech St. Ignatius Fremd St. Charles North If you want to correct something, you can reply or you can message me. If you want to get mad at me (for whatever reason), please don't reply and please don't message me. Edit: To include SCN in teams to watch Edit2: Fixed a name Last edited by Phenom Man : 06-18-2012 at 12:48 AM.
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06-18-2012, 04:58 AM
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Fifth year senior? Actually, what happens when somebody has to repeat their senior year? Can they compete?
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06-18-2012, 11:16 AM
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Steve Chorma is a sophomore, so they screwed up on one of those...
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06-18-2012, 11:23 AM
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06-18-2012, 11:36 AM
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I know, boo self-promotion...
Don't overlook Lincoln-Way Central. Yes, they got 24th place last year but they return their entire top 7. Top 4 runners had track times of 9:41, 4:33, 4:35, and 9:58. Plus they get two middle schoolers who broke 5:00 in 8th grade. They may not have the low scorers necessary to place in the top 10, but they could have 5 guys between 15:30 and 16:00.
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06-18-2012, 01:28 PM
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