Foreign sprinters....

[Avante]

Originally Posted by TNG

RGIII finished 11th in the 2008 trials, he had enrolled early, Jan '08, and was essentially a HS athlete at the time in regard to age.

No way he makes our Olympic team. I'm aldso tired of hearing how he has....world class speed..no he doesn't.

[Equinox2100]

Originally Posted by Avante

No way he makes our Olympic team. I'm aldso tired of hearing how he has....world class speed..no he doesn't.

He had the makings of a world class hurdler. Cant deny that. Faster than nearly everyone who has gotten medals in Olympics when they were in HS. 49.4 400mh as a Junior, 13.55 Hh too. Better than Angelo Taylor was in HS (50.1 in HS, but dropped to a 48.7 the next year).

[Avante]

Originally Posted by Equinox2100

He had the makings of a world class hurdler. Cant deny that. Faster than nearly everyone who has gotten medals in Olympics when they were in HS. 49.4 400mh as a Junior, 13.55 Hh too. Better than Angelo Taylor was in HS (50.1 in HS, but dropped to a 48.7 the next year).

I agree if he'd wanted to have been just a hurdler the potential was there to be among the elite. That's not what happened.

[TNG]

Originally Posted by Equinox2100

He had the makings of a world class hurdler. Cant deny that. Faster than nearly everyone who has gotten medals in Olympics when they were in HS. 49.4 400mh as a Junior, 13.55 Hh too. Better than Angelo Taylor was in HS (50.1 in HS, but dropped to a 48.7 the next year).

And he went 49.22 as an 18 year old at 2008 Big 12 meet, which means 5 months earlier he was sittin in HS study hall wondering what Santa was going to bring him.

Avante, really; not capable of going sub 49 and qualifying. Your reputation as a legitimate know it all is on the line here. He may not have world class speed, but he sure the hell as world class speed endurance.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by TNG

And he went 49.22 as an 18 year old at 2008 Big 12 meet, which means 5 months earlier he was sittin in HS study hall wondering what Santa was going to bring him.

Avante, really; not capable of going sub 49 and qualifying. Your reputation as a legitimate know it all is on the line here. He may not have world class speed, but he sure the hell as world class speed endurance.

Let's talk football speed. As a 400hurdler he had sustained speed or like you mentioned speed endurance. There is a world of difference there than the kind of speed it takes to play football. There it's more about his quicks and acceleration, burst not sustained anything. He has great 40 speed for a QB but not all that vs the real world class sprinters playing football. World class speed is sub 10.20, I doubt RGIII breaks 10.35.

If all he had done was concentrate on the 400h no telling what he might have accomplished, but he didn''t so we'll never know. I do know the football/track guy wasn't making our Olympic team.

[jpac511]

Originally Posted by Avante

I agree if he'd wanted to have been just a hurdler the potential was there to be among the elite. That's not what happened.

So since it isn't what happened, and you agree he had potential, how can you sit here and say that there was no way he makes the Olympic team? You are way underrating the development that he would go through if he were to have chosen to only focus on track

[TNG]

Originally Posted by Avante

I do know the football/track guy wasn't making our Olympic team.

Off course not you pick the team. If at 18 he could run college track, do spring FB and end up 11th at the trials hard to say what he could have done this year without spring FB.

BTW I saw him run at AAU JO Games in 2007, by far the most impressve athlete in the YM division, won the 110's by 5m and the 400h by 20m.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by TNG

Off course not you pick the team. If at 18 he could run college track, do spring FB and end up 11th at the trials hard to say what he could have done this year without spring FB.

Derrick Florence ran a 10.13 in high school that was new HS record. While at Texas A&M he never broke 10.20.

Carter Suggs ran a slew of HS tying 9.3's then off to East Carolina, never to be heard from again.

Bill Cowings was a great HS sprinter won Cal State then off to Texas Southen...poof!!!!!!!

J-Mee Samuels broke Florences HS record then off to Arkansas, never did anything close to what his potential showed.

James Jackson lead the nation (not just HS) in 1954 with his 9.4.....poof!!!!!!

LaNoris Marshall beat both Don Quarrie and Steve Williams in the 60 as an Arizona HSer, never did much after that.

Preston Griffen one of the natons top sprinters in 1957 as a HSer, 1958 he's gone for good.

Tons and tons of guys were did this and that in HS who never lived up to the expectations.

RGIII never faced a world class field, he never won the NCAA's, he never made an Olympic trials final. That's what he actually did. What he might of done we have no way of knowing. Personally I think if he wasn't a footballer he's one of our top hurdlers.

[reee]

Originally Posted by jpac511

You are completely correct. However in suburban America, when to even participate in organized baseball (God forbid kids play in the backyard anymore), parents usually have to shell out somewhere between 1 and 3 grand for a summer.

This is still completely irrelevant to your assertion about what sports kids choose and the cost of it.

[runxc6792]

Originally Posted by reee

This is still completely irrelevant to your assertion about what sports kids choose and the cost of it.

Great incite.

Not sure where you're coming up with the 1-3k figures, jpac...little league here in IL is still about 100 bucks or less for the summer (uniform included). Even playing traveling stuff when I was 14,15,16 was about 600 for the entire summer. Obviously not free, but not going to break the bank for most families either.