Foreign sprinters....

[Avante]

Originally Posted by runningchoc

We obviously are looking at two different things or you're wearing blinders. Track and field loses elite athletes to football all the time. And not just a few. MANY either never ran track, didn't focus on it, or quit to focus on another sport. I don't think you realize how many very fast straight line speed guys there are playing basketball, football and baseball.

I'm very aware of the impact football makes, look at my list on the other thread.

We just aren't seeing anything remotely close to what you are talking about, "MOST" fast kids run track. They don't play baseball/basketball/soccer whatever. If you think they do you are as wrong as wrong gets. But if you have some need to believe that, cool.

[runningchoc]

Originally Posted by Avante

I'm very aware of the impact football makes, look at my list on the other thread.

We just aren't seeing anything remotely close to what you are talking about, "MOST" fast kids run track. They don't play baseball/basketball/soccer whatever. If you think they do you are as wrong as wrong gets. But if you have some need to believe that, cool.

I would expect nothing less from a guy who's recollection of high school most likely involved girls with big hair and guys with tight rolled pants.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by runningchoc

I would expect nothing less from a guy who's recollection of high school most likely involved girls with big hair and guys with tight rolled pants.

How about a guy who can break down ever stud sprinter currently running HS track? Knows every sprinter on NCAA rosters and in the current NFL, how about that guy?

[yoshi]

I really don't think there are a ton of stud sprinters choosing football over track.

E.g. 2x WJ silver + WJ gold Aaron Ernest chose running track at LSU over track+football elsewhere.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by yoshi

I really don't think there are a ton of stud sprinters choosing football over track.

E.g. 2x WJ silver + WJ gold Aaron Ernest chose running track at LSU over track+football elsewhere.

Finally somebody who gets it.

Fast little kid, he's winning everything locally. He has all those ribbons and medals and praise for being the fast guy, he's going to dump that for..... He knows he can run early on, basseball/soccer/basketball/football take time.

Yes a lot of sprinters play football, but a lot more don't. Much less give up..."you sure are fast!"...to be just another baseballer/basketballer/soccer-ite.

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by Avante

Finally somebody who gets it.

Fast little kid, he's winning everything locally. He has all those ribbons and medals and praise for being the fast guy, he's going to dump that for..... He knows he can run early on, basseball/soccer/basketball/football take time.

Yes a lot of sprinters play football, but a lot more don't. Much less give up..."you sure are fast!"...to be just another baseballer/basketballer/soccer-ite.

And it is not like Ernest had a bunch of garbage football offers. He had Wake Forest, USM, Nebraska, La Tech, Kentucky on the table. But he chose to solely run track.

It was also one of the selling points for X. Carter signing at LSU. He had to get Saban down to the brass tacks to allow him to run track also. (Saban hates letting guys run track, see B. Sylve at Bama.)

Guys who are good at track, for the most part, want to continue in college: Goodwin, Bennett, Demps, Ford, Bracy, and on and on

[Avante]

Originally Posted by yoshi

And it is not like Ernest had a bunch of garbage football offers. He had Wake Forest, USM, Nebraska, La Tech, Kentucky on the table. But he chose to solely run track.

It was also one of the selling points for X. Carter signing at LSU. He had to get Saban down to the brass tacks to allow him to run track also. (Saban hates letting guys run track, see B. Sylve at Bama.)

Guys who are good at track, for the most part, want to continue in college: Goodwin, Bennett, Demps, Ford, Bracy, and on and on

Nailed it!

It really is a status thing, a big deal to be that fast guy.

Not everyone can hit a fast ball, most sprinters are not 6-4 or taller for B-Ball. Soccer???? For every track guys who gets into footbal 10 stay with track.

[kingcoe]

Originally Posted by Avante

Just pointing out how foreign sprinters have always (even back before pro track) had great sprinters at USA colleges.

The USA isn't losing very many potential world class sprinters to other sports. Those who show elite speed early on are running track. Speed is a cultural thing, as is soul/blues/jazz, it's a black thing. Young Afro American kids have a family member or know of some local speedster. It's important to them to be that speed king.

Funny, at the start of the thread I could have sworn your point was the US used to be better at sprinting but now foreign sprinters had taken over and you were wondering why.

From your first post: "What is going on with Ameican sprinting, no it's not football."

From your second post: "The point is that we no longer rule the sprint scene and haven't for awhile now and it bugs me. We don't even rule the NCAA as we are seeing. TCU holds the NCAA 4x1 record, three foreign sprinters on that team. What happened?"

Cultural thing like soul/ blues/ jazz? Hmmmm.

[Avante]

Originally Posted by kingcoe

Funny, at the start of the thread I could have sworn your point was the US used to be better at sprinting but now foreign sprinters had taken over and you were wondering why.

From your first post: "What is going on with Ameican sprinting, no it's not football."

From your second post: "The point is that we no longer rule the sprint scene and haven't for awhile now and it bugs me. We don't even rule the NCAA as we are seeing. TCU holds the NCAA 4x1 record, three foreign sprinters on that team. What happened?"

Cultural thing like soul/ blues/ jazz? Hmmmm.

Still not sure what happened.

[jpac511]

There are 9 pages of people trying to help each other understand what happened. Some just choose not to listen