Chilean Miners

[patti]

Oh Johnny, Oh Johnny..how you can love...Johnny Barrios Rojas....

Oh Johnny didn't seem to return his girls embrace. It seemed awkward.

Oh Johnny, Oh Johnny, Oh!
Oh, Johnny! Oh, Johnny!
How you can love!
Oh, Johnny! Oh, Johnny!
Heavens above!
You make my sad heart jump with joy,
And when you're near I just
Can't sit still a minute.
I'm so, Oh, Johnny! Oh, Johnny!
Please tell me dear.
What makes me love you so?
You're not handsome, it's true,
But when I look at you,
I just, Oh, Johnny!
Oh, Johnny! Oh!

Ok, I just had to do it!!!

[wineturtle]

A wine exporter from Chile I know says it has been reported that at least 5 of the miners had mistresses or that they are not living with the legal wife. One reportedly has 4 women in his life- undivorced wife, baby momma, live-in girl friend and mistress he sees outside the live-in gf relationship.
The big issue is the compensation awards to family of the trapped miners.
In Chile the divorce laws are complex and it is not unusual for families to split but not divorce-religious issues also play a role.

Relationships are complex everywhere not just for these miners.

The technical issues of the rescue hold my attention not the social relationship ones.

The idea of assigning tasks to all the men and promoting the team concept to keep the trapped from forming cliques and fighting for power is intriguing to me. From all reports there has been no clashes between miners during these long and stressful times.
Hell I`ve taken a 3 floor elevator ride and before we reached the second floor have wanted to smack one pompus cellphone yeller upside his head..

The Chilean govt. shoud be proud of the way they handled this and how they have lead the multinational team working on the rescue.

Let`s hope this world wide news event will spur a renewed effort to reform and improve workplace safety issues not only down in the mines but across the board in all businesses.

I hope all those involved will be able to deal positively with the mental and emotional aftermath of this event.

One CNN reporter said it is wonderful to work on a "Breaking News Event" that is so positive because so many others are of a tragic nature.

[herr]

Originally Posted by wineturtle

Relationships are complex everywhere not just for these miners.

I'm bettin that you are not going to get much push back on this statement

[herr]

Originally Posted by wineturtle

The technical issues of the rescue hold my attention not the social relationship ones.

The idea of assigning tasks to all the men and promoting the team concept to keep the trapped from forming cliques and fighting for power is intriguing to me. From all reports there has been no clashes between miners during this long and stressful times.
.

I agree that that is the really fascinating thing. My hunch is that they were very lucky to have so many strong religious figures there who were able to find strength in their faith and allow that to be shared.

[MedialMeniscus]

Originally Posted by wineturtle

One CNN reporter said it is wonderful to work on a "Breaking News Event" that is so positive because so many others are of a tragic nature.

Amen to that.

[herr]

More from the New York Times Live feed:

Our colleagues Simon Romero and Alexei Barrionuevo report from the San José mine:

Some of the miners rescued here said they were touched by God. Others said they were pondering new careers, like Victor Segovia, who is writing a book about the ordeal. Yonni Barrios, 50, the electrician who was tasked with keeping health updates on the 33 men during their time underground, emerged with a bit more sizzle.
Susana Valenzuela, 52, the woman he embraced upon exiting the capsule, turned out to be his mistress. His wife of 28 years, Marta Salinas, 56, told reporters that she might wait for him at their home. "He has another companion," said Ms. Salinas. "I'm happy for him, and if he remakes his life, good for him."
At one point, workers at Camp Hope said they had to separate the two women at the canteen in the weeks after the collapse at San José Mine, when both showed up seeking benefits. The news about the two women in the Atacama desert competing for Mr. Barrios's heart even led to songs composed about the love triangle, including with these lyrics:
"When I was trapped a half a mile deep,
They both called my name as they mourned and weeped (sic)."
In a recent interview at the camp, Ms. Valenzuela, who met Mr. Barrios when they received first-aid training, explained that her relationship with the electrician was as valid as anything witnessed in Chile's civil registries or churches. "My son," she said, "treats him like a father."

[herr]

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[wineturtle]

Now comes the hard part for these families. It truely has been a life changing event for them.
I hope they can handle the after as well as the seemed to have done for the during.
They really picked up the pace for the last 10 or so of the miners it seemed like every 20 minutes they hauled another one out. Not at all like the 50 minutes between the first dozen or so.

A big round of applause for all involved !!

[OrvilleAtkins]

I have found this story amazing and very interesting!
I have found the whole incident awesome.
I grew up in the Town of Timmins which is the largest town in the Porcupine Gold Mining Camp. The area produced Gold, Timber, NHL hocky players and Shania Twain. My father sold explosives and had a bright red car as soon as he could get one. He was the technical expert on dynamite and blasting for the mine, prospectors, farmers, the Provincial Police and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Liquid gold is a beautiful rich colour, especially when being poured. In the summer of 1956, I worked underground in the Hollinger Consolidated Gold Mine, one of the largest producers of gold in the world at the time. I imagine gold mining has changed some since those days but I found the conditions worse than miserable.
I was usually not as far down as 880 yards down but pitch black is pitch black. Where I was it was cold, damp, wet, dusty and of course pitch black. When underground, you have no sense of the world as it is on the earth's surface. As in other jobs, it was very hard work but, in addition, we had those miserable conditions to contend with. Also, I had problems with my body's system being exposed to so much dust for eight hours a day. I would wake up at night and my body would shudder, I would feel like I had the flu and my nose would run. I did not run or jog much that summer but I did earn my University tuition.
My thoughts were with those miners the whole time they were down there. My thoughts continue to be with the miners, the rescuers and their families. It is amazing that every single thing seemed to go right from the time they sent that note to the surface. The rescuers did it perfectly. They and the miners must be commended. As wineturtle has stated, "now comes the hard part for these families".

[Zat0pek]

Originally Posted by MoMoNoMo

So... was that the wife or the girlfriend?? He seemed to look at her kind of like, "Uh, you happy to see me?"

That was the mistress. Wife has apparently washed her hands of him.

I see many book and movie deals in the coming months. Just hope they don't focus on the sordid stuff like the mistress.

I absolutely love the guy who brought up a bag of rocks as souvenirs and was jumping around and yelling like he just scored the winning goal in the Chile/Bolivia soccer match. I wanna have a beer with that guy.